We’ve had another fantastic chat with our guest Tirra, all about her journey towards emotional progress in her home. We’ve laughed, we’ve cried, and we’ve dug deep into some really powerful themes – like acknowledging our feelings, allowing ourselves to be vulnerable, and how to keep growing.
We explored Tirra’s exciting transformation as she tackled her ‘Mama’s room’, turning an overwhelming task into a series of manageable goals. We were there every step of the way, cheering her on as she used her vision board to create a home that truly reflects her.
Sara offered some great advice on celebrating the small victories and how tiny habits can make a big difference. We also delved into the emotional aspect of clearing out physical spaces, especially after years of homeschooling.
We wrapped up our chat by discussing how important it is to celebrate our personal achievements and transitions. It was a powerful conversation that we think will resonate with a lot of our listeners.
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Welcome to No Shame in the Home Game, the podcast that cares
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:how your home feels, not looks.
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:I am Lacy, your grumpy co host today
with, the ray of sunshine that I have a
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:feeling is going to make me feel better.
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:Sarah, my other co host.
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:Hi.
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:Sara: Hi Lacey, it's okay if you're
grumpy today and I don't have to make
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:you feel better because we all get there
when it's the right time and it's all
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:up and down and you just let it come
and you let it go and you ride the wave.
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:Lacey: yeah.
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:And I am saying that I'm grumpy
because I feel like whenever
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:people are like, how are you?
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:I'm good.
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:How are you?
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:I'm good.
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:And so me, a person that people
often think is like, Captain
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:positive over here, I get grumpy too.
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:And I'm grumpy right now, but you
know, who doesn't make me grumpy?
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:Tyra.
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:We're doing episode two of Tyra
today and she makes me not grumpy.
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:Sara: I could use a little bit
of Tyra in every day of my life.
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:Even I feel like grumpy Tyra.
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:It would still be.
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:It
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:Lacey: magic.
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:Sara: and again, I can't say it enough
how thankful I am that our participants
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:come on and share what's going on.
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:Tyra really did some emotional digging
to make progress in her home and
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:just so much appreciation that she
was vulnerable and open and shared.
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:Like you were saying at the beginning,
you're sharing that you're grumpy
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:because that's part of life.
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:Tyra shared the parts that
weren't working and that's how
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:we're going to help other people.
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:So all the thanks to Tyra
to showing up as it is.
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:And that's how we're going to
help each other is just admitting
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:when the days are tough.
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:Lacey: Yeah.
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:Because when we can admit the days
are tough, that's when we can go
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:into our joyful support steps of
recognizing the good, talking about
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:it, and then taking steps forward, a
little plug for, our joyful support.
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:class.
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:I don't want to delay it any longer.
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:We're gonna go ahead and jump
right in and do Tyra part two.
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:Mhm.
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:Track 1: we are
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:Lacey: back with Tirra, And as usual,
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:Track 1: I'm going
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:to throw it over to Sarah
she knows what's going on.
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:-:
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:This is episode
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:Sara: two with Tirra and I was
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:-:
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:Sara: say miss Tirra.
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:I don't
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:-:know why I felt like
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:Sara: saying Tirra.
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:You were,
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:-:call me that?
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:-:
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:-:Yeah.
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:a lot of children used to call me
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:Tirra: Ms.
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:Tirra, Tirra.
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:And at the
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:-:nonprofit where I teach, they
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:Tirra: call me Ms.
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:Tirra.
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:So you were
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:-:picking up on it.
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:-:
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:so episode two, the first episode
when we met you, we talked about what
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:in your home wasn't feeling great.
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:And we talked about everything
that had led up to then and what
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:we wanted to do moving forward.
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:And what I really
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:Sara: enjoyed, Tirra, was that
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:-:took a lot of time to do back and
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:forth with me between episodes.
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:Because this is a process.
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:It's a journey.
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:, We know where We want to go, but how
we're going to get there, it really
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:takes a back and forth and so many of
my clients, I have to convince them.
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:No, tell me when things aren't
working because that means we need to
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:change course, but oftentimes clients
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:will feel bad.
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:And I'm like, no, it just means
we need a different tactic.
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:And you were so right.
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:So open about what wasn't
working, which was wonderful.
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:So the perception I got was when we
left off of episode one, , we were
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:looking at your whole house and really
tackling your whole house because , it
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:was on a journey for 20 years with, or
20 plus years homeschooling your kids.
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:Now the kids are older, you're at a
very different chapter in your life.
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:And it felt pretty immediate that.
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:Didn't feel good.
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:It felt like too much.
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:And what I heard was, I'm
pretty much going to shut down
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:because I don't like this.
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:which was a tool that I talk about is the
zoom in, zoom out, and we zoomed way too
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:far out and we needed to zoom in and I
suggested that we focus on your office.
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:What do you call your office?
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:You had a term for it.
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:-:mama's room,
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:-:
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:Yes, that's why I wanted to call
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:Sara: you Miss Tirra,
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:-:mama's room.
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:-:focus to Mama's room, and then you said
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:up on that second floor where Mama's
room is, is also one of your kids And
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:so reframing into just thinking about
the top floor, and I really encouraged
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:you to focus in on that vision board,
which you so beautifully created.
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:, tell the audience whatever you want
to share about that vision board.
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:what did it feel like doing it?
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:What do you have on there?
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:How is it helping you?
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:I want to hear all about the vision board.
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:-:Oh yes.
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:I, okay.
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:So I love Canva.
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:So to create a vision
board on Canva was so fun.
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:And yeah, One of the things I thought
about as I created it was what is the feel
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:of, what do I want my house to be about?
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:What do I want to focus on?
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:And family is at the top of that.
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:And so I put a picture of my family
from my older son's graduation
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:from the Coast Guard Academy.
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:and then I put for me right
now, a lesson from my mother.
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:Was clean
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:Tirra: as you go, Tirra, clean as
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:-:you go.
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:She was so neat and I was not.
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:But that has just stuck with me.
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:My mom died when I was 27.
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:And it's like little nuggets
like that mean the world to me.
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:And so there was something that I put on
my vision board that said clean as you go.
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:Because that's what I want
everyone in my house to do.
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:So I'm hoping that will
invoke that, in the house.
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:And then I chose other pictures that
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:have the feel of what I want.
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:They may not look exactly like what
I want, but they have the feel of it.
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:I like natural
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:elements.
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:There was one picture I put on there.
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:I've always wanted.
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:It's, I don't know if it's really a
sunroom, where all I do is just go
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:there and study or do something fun.
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:Even though I have mama's room,
it is still like I work here.
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:I exercise here.
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:It's an all purpose room.
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:It's not always about relaxing.
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:So I had a picture on there that
was more of I just want this place
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:in my house where I can have fun,
be creative, relax, and just.
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:Do nothing.
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:Track 1: and it's also because
I want to be like a cat curled
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:up in a sunbeam reading a book.
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:So I just, as soon as you said
it, I'm like, Oh, I know exactly.
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:Yes, I agree.
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:-:we're vibing Lacey.
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:and then just, I'm a minimalist.
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:I've I'm accepting that I'll
probably never have an ornate,
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:beautiful home, even though when
I go to other people's homes and.
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:Just all the style and the pizazz.
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:So just pictures that are
goals for me, because I do feel
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:like I have too much stuff.
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:A lot of my pictures were more like open.
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:So I love, I love creating it.
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:I love looking at it.
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:It makes me happy.
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:Just like, You said it's a way
for me to move my mind from
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:walking in the house, just being
like, Oh my gosh, I'm back here.
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:And it's just a mess and it's
never going to get cleaned up too.
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:You know what?
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:I have something else I can
think about for my home.
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:-:And it's so great because it
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:creates direction and focus.
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:Like you said, when you walk into the
house and you feel that overwhelm,
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:I mean, we, we have to remember you
had 20 years of really focusing on.
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:Teaching your children, raising your
children, juggling a lot, and so you're
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:really looking at history when you walk
in and the vision board is really your
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:future and right now you're at that
line, that intersection, and it's a
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:tension point of walking into your past.
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:Desiring your future, right?
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:And the vision board reminds us
of, I always say it's the fuel.
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:Why are we spending five,
10 minutes every day?
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:Why are we doing this?
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:I love the analogy of when people
talk about, making sure you have
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:purpose and direction and intent.
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:It's like going into a restaurant
when you're hungry and saying to the
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:waiter, I want food and it's like,
well, that's not really going to get
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:you where you want to go very quickly.
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:So.
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:This is creating, okay, this
is the direction I'm going in
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:and sure it's not a magic wand,
although it'd be great if it was,
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:but it's reminding you and then to take
that step of focusing on that top floor,
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:which is really two rooms, correct?
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:The two rooms then.
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:So creating that vision and
creating it more doable.
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:I think that felt more doable.
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:Like I can focus on the office, which
you've already claimed and you can
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:maximize, and I even talked about
just a corner of your desk, just your
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:pencil cup, just pick one small area
in your office and align it with that
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:vision board, and then it can't help,
but Overflow because when you see
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:that little corner, it feels good.
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:And you can see clearly the
decisions that have to be made.
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:Right?
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:So when you're trying to do the
whole house, I think we just
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:crumble under the decision fatigue.
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:But when you've already
claimed your office and then
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:you've got this vision board.
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:And then you're trying
to line them up, right?
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:There's fewer steps.
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:You're like, Oh, it's just
that this needs to be adjusted.
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:This needs to be removed.
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:So does that, that feels doable?
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:You're shaking your head.
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:So I feel like we're talking
the same language, right?
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:Yeah.
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:Yes.
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:-:And when you told me, Hey, because
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:even the box got overwhelming and you
were like, okay, let's just focus on
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:one small little corner of your desk.
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:I was like, Oh my gosh.
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:That is so doable.
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:Five
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:Tirra: minutes, Tirra.
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:Five minutes.
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:-:And I was like, I have five minutes.
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:I definitely could take five minutes
to do this and not feel like what
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:you talked about that overwhelm.
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:and aligning it with the
vision board that is in genius.
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:So yes, we are definitely aligned
that, actually between the vision
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:board and you saying, just focus
on a small corner on your desk.
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:It pretty much shifted everything for me.
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:It just took all the load off.
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:And, honestly, Sarah, when I walk
in, I'm not just completely and
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:totally frustrated anymore because
now, like what you said, the other
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:thing that I do, it's you know what?
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:Five minutes.
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:Okay.
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:If I walk in and I, whatever I
can actually take control of.
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:Let me just work on that for five
minutes and I feel so accomplished.
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:So you're good.
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:Yeah.
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:-:
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:it comes from years of
myself feeling overwhelmed.
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:And I love manuals.
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:I always joke.
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:I want life to have a user manual.
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:And so I always felt like
there's got to be a solution.
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:So it was me just trying things on all
the time and then working with clients.
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:And it's that, Thing of
it's not one size fits all.
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:You need to meet people where
they are, what their goal is
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:and what their resources are.
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:And so I came up with a plan with
you and I perceived like where you
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:were, I just perceived it incorrectly.
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:And that's why it fell flat.
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:And it's okay, that's fine.
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:Like I, I heard this gung ho, like
I'm ready to take on the world.
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:And you probably were, but then
it immediately was like, No, I
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:think I'm just going to pull a
blanket up and not do any of this.
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:And it's no.
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:There's definitely a thousand
options in between like surrender
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:and like conquer the world.
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:And that's one of the best
books I talk about all the time.
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:It's called Tiny Habits.
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:And it's all about starting small.
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:When your motivation monkey
is huge, that's often when you
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:don't meet your goals and you're
You've done personal training.
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:that person who's never walked
before says I'm going to run
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:a marathon in three months.
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:maybe, but maybe a half marathon
in six months is more reasonable
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:And when I heard you
talking, I wrote down a note.
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:I heard when you were talking about.
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:That space, like your office is
for working and exercise, but
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:you want that space for like joy.
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:What I'm hearing is you're at
that stage in your life where it's
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:I've got these other facets that
I've just been on the back burner.
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:And it's like, let those come forward.
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:And I really see optimizing that
top floor of your house to be that.
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it'll naturally ripple
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:It will just, there'll be such a
disconnect between the two floors
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:that , as long as you throw your elbows
up and say, I'm not letting this first
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:floor, affect the second floor and
it's the other way around, then it'll
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about it because you've made, you've
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five minutes felt doable.
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you're integrating this into your life?
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effortless as you're doing it.
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:By the time I got on the
other side, I was like,
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:five minutes, five minutes.
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:And so, making sure that I keep
the vision high, the vision board.
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:and the feel of the vision
board for me, that's what the
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:vision board is so much about.
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:How am I feeling?
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:am I is the feeling that I have
aligning with this vision board or
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:the vision board actually is the
reminder because I can have that now.
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:Even in the midst of, things not
being exactly how I want them to be.
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:what I have been doing is, a habit that I
have from previous times that I've worked
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:to be more orderly and have routines.
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:Is have a timer set for when I need to,
clean or, take a moment to clean up.
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:And so that's one of the
things I've been doing.
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:It's just stop right now.
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:We're just getting ready to,
clean for just a few minutes
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:And it makes me feel successful
and, it makes the room look better.
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:Is there anything else?
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:I think that's it.
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:That's it's just incorporating
it bit by bit day by day.
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:And it's interesting because I,
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:think I did come on the
last time super gung ho
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:and so ready for it, but
I didn't even see it as
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:the plan that we had.
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:I saw it as, well, just so grateful.
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:It's the biggest thing that has come
through for me is the importance
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:of getting support because I was
gung ho, but because I had you to
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:leave a message like, Ooh, this
is not working and I don't even
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:know what box to start with.
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:I was able to leave you a message.
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:And That's when we came
up with a new plan.
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:And I was like, that's
really what I needed.
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:Just somebody to say, hey,
I'm on the outside looking in.
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:I'm more objective and
let's just try a new plan.
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there is also interesting is I started
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:saying One little basket at a time,
I went under, there's these little
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:baskets that are under my son's beds.
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:And so I would pull the basket out.
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:and one day, I think I went to three,
it was just one and then I did three.
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:so overall the take it bit by bit
plan every day is working for me.
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:And I, I just wanted to share that
because everybody operates uniquely.
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:And so hearing ideas of, Oh, maybe if I
set a timer at 12, or maybe if I set a
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:And I love that one basket.
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just integrating that baseline.
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:He talks about if you want to have a
goal of a hundred pushups, the first
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just to get in that start position.
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you ever do, that's fine.
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one pushup, that's great.
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memory of just, this is what we're doing.
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:And I do want to distinguish when you're
taking those five minutes in your office,
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:there is a difference between, Resetting
what you already have and making choices
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:So making sure you're intentional
about, okay, am I just putting
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:these items back where they belong?
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:Or am I in the mindset of, does
this item line up with what I
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:Does that make sense?
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:Those two different categories.
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:-:having those two different categories.
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:yes, that's actually something I would
like to get into my muscle memory and,
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thinking about when I am cleaning.
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:I think you even mentioned that the last
time, something about being intentional.
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if we're just talking about
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taking an object and putting it back
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:where it belongs versus cleaning
is dusting, vacuuming, wiping.
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you're in the part of your
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be in line with your vision board, you
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:need to go to a different part of your
brain of, is this part of my vision?
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you're making these choices.
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:And I like to remind people to make
the choices as simple as possible.
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:Mhm.
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:Mhm.
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:-:in your son's room and you're going
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:through a basket, first tell me how you're
doing, how are you going through it?
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:and setting the intention that I will
get rid of as much stuff as possible.
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to keep anything that I know
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they're not going to use again.
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even get started, how excited I am, how I
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feels to go through the basket.
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:And the pain actually is not sadness
around stuff because I have realized
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:I can get rid of some stuff.
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:The pain is, Oh my gosh, I,
I just don't want to do this.
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:Why did we, I go into the
negative mindset part.
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:Why did we do all of this?
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:why didn't I clean this sooner?
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:and then once I start,
I do think about, okay.
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:Where does this go?
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we're keeping or is this something
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:that needs to go into the trash or
do I need to take it and donate it?
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:And, definitely have the
boxes for donation for those.
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everything that's going to be thrown away.
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put, I decided I'm going to keep a
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one, but now I'm dedicating these boxes.
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that way if there's something I think
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:And then, yeah, once I get
done, I do a little dance
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:Reward yourself with that happy
energy, whatever that looks like.
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:Oh, I love your happy little dance.
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:And I like that your decisions are
trash pile, donation box, keepsake box.
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:And I often tell people
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:limit it down to two or three
choices on a decision tree.
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:And if somebody is listening,
another option is absolute yes.
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:Keep absolute no, and maybe, and
then later you can go to that
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:no pile and go trash or donate.
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:So it's just another way of
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:But if this is working for you, keep
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:-:Oh, I
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:love what you're saying.
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:-:we, cause what is with the decision
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:fatigue, I always think about when
people go through their closets.
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:Oh, does it still fit?
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:Will I ever wear this
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:again?
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:Oh, will so and so want it?
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:You're asking too many questions.
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:You go, absolute yes.
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:If I'm packing a week long
vacation, these are the items that
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:are absolutely yes coming with.
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:And then you pick out your absolute no's.
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:I've never worn it.
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:I've never liked it.
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:I want to get rid of it.
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:I hate the way it feels.
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:It's scratchy.
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:Absolute no's.
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:And then you're left with your maybes.
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:And then that's when you come up
with a new set of decisions, right?
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:And then when you're all done, you go
to the nose, are these worth donating?
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:Where am I going to donate it?
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:But if you take each item and
you go down that rabbit hole of,
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:can I donate this, which donation
place, what time are they open?
458
:When am I going to drive?
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:that's what burns you out.
460
:but it sounds like you have
a good rhythm and I love that
461
:you do the dance afterwards.
462
:I want to see the dance.
463
:I saw you kind of chair dance
there, but I'm like, Oh, yes.
464
:Yes.
465
:We need to celebrate.
466
:You are doing this work for you, right?
467
:And I think that's why the whole
house felt like too much because
468
:those messages of why am I doing this?
469
:Nobody cares, right?
470
:Whereas when you're doing the top
floor, this is for you and your space.
471
:And we can tackle that shared
space at another day and time.
472
:And so doing that dance, it's
I'm making myself a priority.
473
:I'm choosing what my
next chapter looks like.
474
:I'm creating that space
for me to relax and enjoy.
475
:And it's for You
476
:right?
477
:And you're smiling and I love it.
478
:And that's your fuel.
479
:And I do want to address.
480
:I love that you already dissected
the painful part of the process.
481
:And you were very clear.
482
:It's not sadness.
483
:And I like that you already know that
and I hear you and I recognize why
484
:those thoughts would come up and I think
it's just taking that moment to honor.
485
:It got like this because you had a
lot going on, you were raising your
486
:boys, you were teaching your boys, you
were working, you were taking them,
487
:you told me about all these events
you were taking them to, it got like
488
:that because that's what life was.
489
:In the past
490
:and it's okay and guilt and shame
actually does nothing to move
491
:us forward to the vision board.
492
:It actually holds us back, which I'm
not telling anyone that their shame
493
:and upsetness feelings don't matter.
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:They do matter.
495
:Do.
496
:It's just that they're not
gonna help us go forward.
497
:It's like when you're going,
I always use analogies.
498
:If you're driving from point A to point
B and it's a very long road trip and
499
:you end up taking the wrong highway,
I mean, how long are you gonna sit on
500
:the side of the road and kick yourself
for losing an hour out of your drive?
501
:do it as long as you want,
but it's not getting you any
502
:closer to your destination.
503
:-:a good analogy.
504
:-:and it's up to you.
505
:It's your choice.
506
:and
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:that's why I'm always very
adamant when I work with people.
508
:I'm never telling you how
to do it or what to do.
509
:But if that is your goal, that
vision board, then feeling bad
510
:about something, just honor it.
511
:And you're at this point.
512
:I, we mentioned our coach, the,
how Lacey and I met Adriana.
513
:She taught us this system
called human design.
514
:And.
515
:I had so many epiphanies and I
told her at one point, I said, I
516
:am actually mad that I didn't know
about this earlier in my life.
517
:I said, I have been through so much
struggle and pain and being mad at myself.
518
:And I'm like, how much of that
could have been alleviated?
519
:And she said, I hear you, but honor
the fact that now you really notice
520
:the difference and it's going to really
521
:feel like a big change for you.
522
:And that this was just.
523
:The path of your life.
524
:And so thinking about you and these
feelings, it's like honor this journey
525
:and know that now you have these tools.
526
:You can help other people who
are going through the same thing.
527
:you work with clients, you
have coaching clients, right?
528
:-:
529
:just say really quickly, I never
even thought about to sharing
530
:this with homeschool moms.
531
:You know, sort
532
:of as my little volunteer service,
because there's been no one to
533
:talk to me about what it means
to be a retired homeschool mom.
534
:I think we're new and even the
ones who came before us, they
535
:didn't have social media and I'm
just not plugged into that group.
536
:I wasn't raised up like this.
537
:And I have made videos to say,
these are the things you want
538
:to think about after you finish.
539
:It's a very big shift and change.
540
:So I've never thought about that.
541
:I'm going to make sure I do that.
542
:And the other
543
:thing that you're reminding
me of is how little, and it's
544
:probably not just homeschool moms.
545
:I would say parenting in
general can bring this up.
546
:It's almost like a thankless job.
547
:I'm not saying it is definitely
thankless, but when people retire from.
548
:these corporate companies or just
wherever they're retiring from, there's
549
:a retirement party, there's certificates.
550
:And I just never have gotten that.
551
:My, my kudos has been seeing my children
552
:thrive as young adults.
553
:And so I don't have it, it's so helpful
for me to hear you say things like that.
554
:why do you have all this?
555
:Because you were busy.
556
:You were homeschooling.
557
:You were doing the best you could.
558
:If I can't even begin to explain
like how much that touches my heart.
559
:Tirra: I really appreciate you,
560
:Sarah.
561
:Thank You
562
:Lacey: Tirra,
563
:Track 1: first of all, choked up over
here, but it's really funny that you say
564
:that because I learned as a new mom, that.
565
:Reaching the 1st birthday was for me.
566
:It was not for the kid.
567
:So now, anytime I'm invited to a
1st birthday party, I get mom or
568
:dad or whoever a gift card of you
celebrate you because you made it
569
:through this 1st year and was tough.
570
:And it was a big change and now I'm like.
571
:Okay, if somebody moves out or
graduation, I'm going to give a gift
572
:to the parent and be like, get yourself
some champagne or sparkling grape
573
:juice, whatever your, celebratory
thing is, because you're right.
574
:the parent puts so much work and
love and effort and all of these
575
:into getting their child there.
576
:And yes, it's their lives,
they're making it forward, but.
577
:I think both deserve the
578
:-:Thank you, Lacey.
579
:I feel so
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:seen.
581
:-:we're tapping into this cause it goes
582
:back to the whole reason we're doing this
show is if you feel better in your home.
583
:That's what you take out into the world.
584
:And we talk about that ripple of joy.
585
:And I said something about
10% making a 10% change.
586
:And Lacey's like, no, it just has to be
587
:2%.
588
:I think it
589
:was it two.
590
:1%.
591
:one or 2%.
592
:So if you feel 1% better
593
:about.
594
:Why you're where you are
and everything you did.
595
:And then you share that with
some homeschool teachers, Hey,
596
:thank you for what you're doing.
597
:I know it's a thankless job.
598
:You're then rippling out that
appreciation and validation.
599
:And then they're going to take
that forward in their journey.
600
:And to me, that's the whole point of this.
601
:And and I also, I agree with you.
602
:I think there are so many thankless jobs.
603
:Especially as women.
604
:And that's the lens I'm seeing it through
because I am a mom, a working mom, so
605
:I'm very firsthand with that as well.
606
:Funny side story.
607
:I started walking around my
house talking in the third person
608
:because I needed to hear, thank
you for things that were thankless.
609
:And so I will say, Hey mom, thanks for
reminding me to take my medicine today.
610
:I love that you're so concerned
about my wellbeing all the time.
611
:That really is awesome.
612
:I do it as a joke, but I'm validating
myself and my family laughs and then
613
:they realize that they need to validate.
614
:So , two things that I'm going to propose
to you if it feels good is one, take
615
:yourself out for a celebration lunch
or celebration walk with a friend.
616
:And just say, my intention for this
is to celebrate all of my hard work
617
:you can do it by yourself or with a
friend, but you set the intention.
618
:I actually want to brag
about everything I did.
619
:And I will pay for your lunch.
620
:If you sit there and nod
your head and clap for me,
621
:-:
622
:I'm tearing up just hearing that.
623
:Cause I need it.
624
:-:or write yourself a letter.
625
:it doesn't have to be a one time thing.
626
:Oh, I'm just going to give you a moment.
627
:-:No, I'm listening.
628
:I really, I just actually had
this conversation with myself
629
:Tirra: today.
630
:Like Tirra, you need
631
:-:to take some time to really honor.
632
:What you've done, I just feel like this
20 plus years of investing in my children
633
:so in depth, where my identity was so
tied to mothering and just, to a certain
634
:degree, I feel a little silly, but I'm
not going to sit on the side of the road.
635
:talking about what hasn't happened
or whatever, but I feel a little
636
:silly that I'm this many years out.
637
:It's been about two and a half years
and I'm still like, why do I not feel
638
:like the loop hasn't been closed and
maybe even, going out with somebody and
639
:saying, I need you to listen and celebrate
with me, which that would be very easy.
640
:I have so many people who love me and
support me, and everything that I've done.
641
:So I know I can do that.
642
:And also I'm going to link this
to the getting rid of everything.
643
:It's I need to close it out.
644
:Maybe that's why the loop is still open
is all the evidence is still here, of
645
:all that I did with my children for so
long, but, yeah, again, I just have to
646
:say this for people who are listening,
it's so important to get support because
647
:when we have people on the outside.
648
:You all are able to see what
I haven't been able to see.
649
:Lacey, I don't even know how I
didn't come up with that idea.
650
:I'm going to use your idea
651
:also, for the new parents and
the retiring parents, because.
652
:it's just something that is just so
key and necessary, but moving forward,
653
:definitely one of the things I do
want to just say, I did go and buy
654
:myself a membership at this place
called hot works cause I love heat.
655
:I love the sauna.
656
:And so that was one of the things I
was like, I'm just gonna, I didn't
657
:used to be able to do this, just pick
up and go work out whenever I want.
658
:So I bought a new membership yesterday at
hot works, but I need somebody to talk to.
659
:I need to.
660
:hear it.
661
:I need
662
:to see it celebrated or something.
663
:Cause the loop is not closed.
664
:Thank You for that.
665
:-:
666
:And that makes so much sense.
667
:The items were sort of an evidence.
668
:How much you did and by
getting it out of the house.
669
:You are you're sort of wiping
the slate clean, but you want to
670
:be doing it in a positive way.
671
:Not an unpositive, I don't want to say
negative way, but you want it to feel.
672
:Yes.
673
:I like, that.
674
:I like, and ritual is so important.
675
:I used to do papers on ritual and why
they're important and how our society
676
:doesn't have them and having a ritual
sorry, I get so many thoughts at once.
677
:So having a ritual around closing
the loop that feels good to
678
:you and celebrating yourself.
679
:That is one thing I tell
all the women I know.
680
:Celebrate your own birthday.
681
:Don't you dare wait for anyone
to buy you flowers or jewelry.
682
:You celebrate your own birthday
because that's what it is.
683
:And so just like with your
teaching career, celebrating that.
684
:Coming up with some kind of ritual
that feels good to you and then the
685
:next step as Lacey was demonstrating
is then honoring other teaching parents
686
:and that's how it's going to embed
in you is when you ripple it forward.
687
:And you say, end of the school year.
688
:Hey, all you stay at home teachers.
689
:Celebrate yourself today.
690
:Take yourself out for a cup of tea.
691
:Do something, buy yourself some flowers.
692
:You got through another year and
then really start a conversation.
693
:What does it look like to close out
our careers as teaching parents?
694
:What does that look like?
695
:And crowdsource ideas and
come up with a ritual.
696
:That would be beautiful.
697
:-:And it goes to show, you know,
698
:you going back to the 1%.
699
:If I feel 1 percent better than
Everything in my life and just how
700
:I show up will be 1 percent better.
701
:And this just goes to show
how it could look like.
702
:I'm just sitting in a house that I
don't want to purge, but it's now
703
:turning into something that has
so much more meaning to me, like
704
:being able to support other women.
705
:Homeschooling moms and even
just mothers in general.
706
:Cause I just love supporting moms no
matter what our career choices are.
707
:it means the world to me.
708
:I'm like you, I'm so much
about women's empowerment.
709
:And now it's this is
an even bigger purpose.
710
:I get to not only learn that
I need to celebrate myself.
711
:And how I can now see that me moving
things out of my home is my way of,
712
:tying it all up and closing out the loop.
713
:And it truly is at this stage for me, a
714
:wiping of the slate has been wiped clean.
715
:But it, it feels like the slate has been
wiped clean because there's a part of me
716
:that's just been like, I don't even know.
717
:What to do with myself
on a day to day basis.
718
:but then in a way it's not because hidden
behind the scenes is all this stuff.
719
:but yeah, I do want to wipe the
slate clean and it feels safe now.
720
:I think even before, cause I didn't
quite know what it meant to me.
721
:To not be a homeschool mom.
722
:And now I do have a
definite sense of that.
723
:I'm so much more used to it.
724
:Now it now feels safe.
725
:I hadn't even thought
about that until right now.
726
:Maybe I haven't gotten rid of it because
it made me feel connected to my children.
727
:And I'm ready.
728
:I'm ready to go on ahead and
just, you know, recognize.
729
:I still have them just they're adults.
730
:it's, shifting.
731
:all of that is over the intense raising
of them and educating all of that is over.
732
:And now.
733
:I can create this room that Lacey
and I maybe one day we'll sit
734
:in and just have this great time
735
:together where we're just doing
nothing, reading books, sitting
736
:with the cats or whatever.
737
:yeah, I can create that and just, live
out the rest of my life supporting moms.
738
:And I even see myself, cause I really
don't talk about homeschooling anymore.
739
:It's just like a whole thing in me is
in me, but it's ripped away from me.
740
:So now it's Ooh, I get to do something.
741
:About something I love.
742
:I still love homeschooling
so much and it's okay.
743
:homeschool mom roll call.
744
:I need all the homeschool moms to
check in on this post and you are
745
:all officially teachers of the year.
746
:I used to just pass by the
school and think I'm never given
747
:that title teacher of the year.
748
:But I'm going to designate, teacher
of the year and just do whatever I can
749
:to support homeschool moms, or retired
homeschool moms, wherever they are.
750
:I'm excited.
751
:Track 1: You, are speaking to our
soul, with what you're saying to is
752
:like, Sarah and I's partnership, , I
have gotten so much out of it.
753
:And I'm like, I want other people
to So to hear that you're like,
754
:I'm getting something out of this,
and I want will make Because.
755
:-:That's it, Lacey.
756
:Mhm.
757
:Mhm.
758
:-:goes back to what I say a lot, I have a
759
:couple of broken record sayings, which
is the stuff in the house is 50 percent
760
:about the stuff and 50 percent emotional.
761
:you had a bit of a block with the
physical tangible, but you just
762
:unlocked that emotional part.
763
:And I think now that
you've opened that up.
764
:, it's going to feel a lot different.
765
:You're going to have a lot more awareness.
766
:Like when you said you were going through
the bins and you said it was painful, but
767
:you were very aware it wasn't sadness.
768
:I think this just unlocks a
whole nother level of awareness
769
:when you're processing items.
770
:And going back to that, honoring your
career as a home school teacher is.
771
:You're right.
772
:You said you don't want to just
wipe it away like it didn't exist.
773
:Come up with a way, a ritual,
come up with some part of that
774
:where it is having something.
775
:Maybe it's a beautiful painting.
776
:Something that is a token of I did this
for a really big portion of my life.
777
:I am proud of it, but having
something, a touchstone.
778
:So it's not floating in your brain.
779
:It's something you can anchor it to, but
you can get rid of these items that you
780
:don't want in your house, but you still
want to honor that chapter in your life.
781
:And again, just crowdsourcing with
his other homeschool teachers.
782
:How do we honor ourselves?
783
:How do we appreciate this journey?
784
:How do we validate one another?
785
:I have to say, I am so intrigued by the
subliminal messages we as women get.
786
:Why can't we toot our own horns?
787
:Why can't we congratulate ourselves?
788
:I can't speak for every woman, but I felt
this message of no, you give everything
789
:you have until you're bleeding from
your knuckles and you don't say boo.
790
:In fact, you're going to show up with
a smile on your face and whatever's
791
:asked of you, you're going to do it.
792
:And you're never going to complain and
you're going to carry it all on your back,
793
:but don't hunch over, stand up straight.
794
:What is that?
795
:Yeah.
796
:-:idea, pervasive.
797
:It is pervasive amongst women.
798
:-:everything you were just saying,
799
:I see that as such a female thing.
800
:As soon as we go to start to
appreciate ourselves, it's Oh no,
801
:I'm getting too high on my horse.
802
:My britches are getting too big.
803
:Oh no, people are going to
think I have an inflated ego.
804
:no.
805
:What about just that healthy
satisfaction of I work damn hard.
806
:If you run a marathon or a
half marathon or 5k you get a
807
:little ribbon at the end like
808
:Get yourself a ribbon, girlfriend.
809
:-:I love that.
810
:I'm a hypnotherapist.
811
:And so there's a lot that we
do with, it's called anchoring.
812
:Actually it's an NLP.
813
:I'm an NLP practitioner.
814
:And I was like, that is freaking
ingenious, Sarah, to have something
815
:that every time I look at it, zing, I
just get to remember all of the beauty,
816
:the wonder and joy of homeschooling.
817
:Without keeping all of the evidence.
818
:Oh my gosh.
819
:Ingenious.
820
:-:
821
:, I like the zing and the dancing
and you're very much in touch
822
:with this higher
823
:Sara: vibration Tirra.
824
:-:I've heard you say a couple of
825
:things of why does it matter?
826
:Why am I doing this?
827
:Nobody cares.
828
:Your voice changes.
829
:Your presentation, your face change,
everything about you changes.
830
:, so just think about all these choices
are just moving you up to that
831
:higher vibration, that hot room,
that dancing, that zing, right?
832
:And if something, you pick up an
item in your house and it starts
833
:to feel like that heavy, that item
is not getting you to your zing.
834
:Everyone needs to get to their own zing.
835
:-:Let us, some people get to
836
:Zen, other people get to zing.
837
:Track 1: makes me feel so much better.
838
:Because I'm a zinger.
839
:I'm I am.
840
:I can't tell you how many times
in my life I've been told, calm
841
:gives me permission to do that.
842
:-:Me too, Lacey.
843
:-:
844
:I feel like this episode in
your journey has really turned
845
:into a celebration of all we do.
846
:As moms, as women, as homemakers
and making sure that we are
847
:validating ourselves and others.
848
:I learned this expression from
a women's networking group I'm a
849
:part of, which is lift as we rise.
850
:So as you rise, you're lifting
all those other homeschool
851
:teachers that you know about.
852
:So it's not just for you, you're actually
doing it so everyone else can feel 1
853
:percent better., I'm so zinged right now
that I could go on So I'm gonna pause
854
:myself because I feel as though we've
gotten to a really good point with You're
855
:going to keep doing those five minutes.
856
:You're going to keep focusing
on your vision board.
857
:You're going to really think about,
are these five minutes, me resetting it
858
:to what it needs to be, or these five
minutes towards making a decision about
859
:moving towards the vision and really
minimizing those decisions of trash pile,
860
:donation pile, keepsake box, and then
taking some time for yourself to come
861
:up with a ritual, how do I celebrate.
862
:And close that loop.
863
:There you go
864
:Sara: dancing again, Tirra.
865
:-:Every time you say it, like,
866
:Yes!
867
:let's do it.
868
:-:I am really excited.
869
:Track 1: logistical question
with your vision board.
870
:You made it in Canva.
871
:Where do you see it?
872
:do you have to pull it up or?
873
:So I asked because.
874
:For our listeners, I think it's a digital
vision board is what I did as well.
875
:And it is now the background of my
computer and my word for the year is joy.
876
:So it just says joy really big.
877
:So I just wanted to see where
yours was in your house.
878
:did you print it off?
879
:Did you whatever?
880
:-:
881
:Good question.
882
:I, actually am using it
digitally on my phone.
883
:I pull it up on my phone, but,
I'm actually getting ready
884
:to print off my vision board.
885
:I do so well with physical copies.
886
:Both.
887
:Track 1: just, I love making it
digitally, but I think a lot of
888
:don't know what to do with it.
889
:-:that's actually, I think, a good
890
:point, which is, and I made this
891
:Sara: point to Tirra on one of
892
:-:of make sure that when you're looking
893
:at the vision board, you're actually
looking with intention, things can become
894
:background noise, and so you create it,
it gets all that, it gets all that energy.
895
:And then if it just becomes
part of that background, it's
896
:not holding the same power.
897
:So if we either.
898
:Like really look at each image and feel
it, or if you have that physical copy,
899
:tape it up in one place, but then make
sure you move it to, your vanity or,
900
:a door it, it will keep refreshing.
901
:That's what it is.
902
:It's like refreshing that vision for
903
:yourself and making sure it
904
:Track 1: so I've been working on my
office set up and part of that has been
905
:like connecting monitors to this and
then projecting it other And every time
906
:it pops up, I like, focus in on another
part that I don't So it's so interesting
907
:that I have had that intentionality,
908
:-:You are aligned.
909
:-:
910
:Sara: love this.
911
:Tirra, do you have
912
:-:that I can help you with going forward?
913
:Do you feel like you have a good plan?
914
:-:I do feel like I have a good plan.
915
:I really, what I'm going to focus
on is the, okay, am I resetting?
916
:Or am I actually trying to decide?
917
:Or am I moving in the
direction of, my vision board?
918
:that was so good.
919
:so definitely going to focus
on that, but yeah, for the most
920
:part, I feel like I have my plan.
921
:-:you'll come up with some ways to
922
:celebrate your teaching career.
923
:And I am really excited to hear what
you come up with and maybe, yeah, ritual
924
:to share with other homeschooling moms,
925
:that is so great that you can be
a leader, an example for them.
926
:And you can flag those, Oh, be aware
of keeping all of this or be that
927
:guide along the road, cause you've
been there and you've seen it.
928
:And,
929
:-:I'm somebody who's really tied
930
:to purpose, meaning in a way,
like things need to be practical.
931
:So to have a new, a whole new mission and
purpose around, okay, now I understand
932
:when we land the homeschooling plane.
933
:There may be some unpacking or,
like what you even mentioned.
934
:Let me let the moms know if you
can unpack every year at the end of
935
:the school year, pass on all your
curricula and get rid of the clothes
936
:that your children aren't wearing.
937
:If I can just give them some encouragement
to do that, because I now see if we
938
:wait on the, the back end of it, then it
could just feel like a lot, that it just
939
:makes me feel so good and so excited.
940
:it's not just like what Lacey was
saying and what you were saying.
941
:It's not just about me.
942
:So that has me so excited today.
943
:-:Thank you for your time.
944
:And again, thank yourself for
taking this time for you and
945
:please keep staying in touch.
946
:Good stuff, things that aren't working
out, things we can troubleshoot.
947
:And then we will meet again in about
four weeks and we'll get to hear
948
:how this, iteration goes for you.
949
:-:I look forward to that.
950
:Thank
951
:you.
952
:Sara: Thank you, Tirra.
953
:That was our daily dose of Tyra.
954
:again, I hope the listeners
resonated with something.
955
:Even if you weren't a homeschool
teacher, even if you didn't raise
956
:two kids, even if you're not
living in Tennessee, there's always
957
:something that we can all reflect on.
958
:And Connect to.
959
:I hope you all listening found something
about Tyra's story that felt true to you.
960
:And something that you can take forward.
961
:And remember, we're just going for 1%.
962
:If you resonate with 1%, then
that's where the growth is.
963
:Lacey: Heck yeah.
964
:I want to start with
my something grateful.
965
:and it is purely stealing Sarah's
thunder, okay, , I know we said
966
:that we're not doing, like why we're
grateful for each other, but these are
967
:like roundabout things that just made
me happy and they're related to you.
968
:One is that Sarah put a wallpaper
behind her, inspired by my peel
969
:and stick wallpaper that is.
970
:The number one question I get when I
make a video, where'd you get that?
971
:And it's just peel and stick from
Amazon and it is the joy of my life.
972
:it's up and I see it behind
you and it looks so good.
973
:Sara: Thank you.
974
:It was one of those things where like when
I'm doing it, I started getting really
975
:tense about it lining up and not having
bubbles, but , I don't know if you know
976
:this, nothing in life is perfect and and
when you step away from it and you just
977
:look at the big picture, it's all good.
978
:actually there's a part of the wall
that doesn't have enough because
979
:somehow, even though I enjoy math and I
think I'm pretty good at math, somehow
980
:either math failed me or I failed
math and didn't get enough wallpaper.
981
:Lacey: with these patterns, you have
to match things at a certain place,
982
:so there is more excess that is not
used, then I think that's one way.
983
:You don't necessarily know
how to calculate that in.
984
:Sara: I was actually so desperate to get
the whole wall done that I used all the
985
:scraps and just made it look as pretty as
possible and I still didn't have enough.
986
:So no, not, it's that was not the problem.
987
:And at first I did try to get it
to line up and then after a while
988
:I was just like, eh, whatever.
989
:I'm glad you like my
wallpaper and I'll be honest.
990
:Took all my willpower not to get the
same one you have because I love yours.
991
:So much and then I just thought well,
that's a little that's a little much But
992
:let's also do a plug to support no shame
in the home game If you go to Lacey's
993
:storefront and purchase the peel and stick
wallpaper through Lacey's storefront It
994
:will help support the production costs of
no shame in the home game, Which is real.
995
:Lacey: is.
996
:Yeah.
997
:And we put other products on there too.
998
:Sara: yes.
999
:Lacey: I put some on my,
did I put my laundry system?
::
Yeah.
::
We just, we put other stuff on there too.
::
So if you're ever curious about a product
that we talked about, Typically, we try to
::
put it somewhere, and the Amazon store is
the easiest place for me because we have
::
affiliate links and we get 13 cents, but
that is 13 cents more than we had before.
::
And we will take it.
::
Sara: Empires are built on 13 cents.
::
Do you remember the movie?
::
And I cannot remember the
title office space, the movie.
::
Yes.
::
Office space.
::
Have you seen that one?
::
Remember they developed that code
to skim like one, one hundredth of a
::
penny off of every ATM transaction,
and they don't think it's going
::
to add up as quickly as it does.
::
And then they've got like all this money
that they're now sitting on top of.
::
So it adds up.
::
Lacey: my other related thing with Sarah
is I sent this to her via a message
::
yesterday, but it just makes me so happy
because I feel like I've been talking
::
a lot about Iris and what she says and
how it's been delightful yesterday.
::
I was making dinner in the kitchen
and she came in and she brought a
::
Like it's it's not a Barbie doll.
::
It's like Barbie's little sister.
::
I don't know, Chelsea.
::
Anyway, it was one of those dolls
and she looked at me and she said,
::
Mommy, it's your friend, Sarah.
::
And then she said high and low because
at dinner we do high and lows and
::
often Sarah, having a meeting and
talking to Sarah is one of my highs.
::
the joy that brought me to it just
made me so happy in so many ways.
::
And I had to tell Sarah right away, and
so now I'm telling all of you, because,
::
I just love how much our kids pick up
on, and the good parts that they pick
::
up on, and, just made me so happy.
::
Sara: well.
::
And that's the perfect
example of the joy ripple.
::
Like I had no idea I was somehow
influencing your daughter and
::
then that made you happy and
then it came right back to me.
::
It was like a joy ripple echo effect
and it was beautiful and wonderful and
::
thank you for sharing that with me.
::
That made my day.
::
Lacey: a joy boomerang.
::
Sara: I love that.
::
Joy Boomerang.
::
Yes, that was so sweet.
::
That made my day.
::
Lacey: And it is thanks to this podcast
and our moments of gratitude that I
::
have, enforced, and now my kids are
really on board with it, that at dinner
::
we do a high and low from our day.
::
And they don't have to have a low,
but they always have to find a
::
high, and they sit down and it's
a way for us to talk about our day
::
and, find out things that happen.
::
and I gotta say, my kids are three
and five, so you wouldn't think.
::
They would do well, Isaac's a very
verbose child, so he does very well
::
at it, and Iris has picked it up, and
she's getting better at it, and when
::
she doesn't know what to talk about,
sometimes she's just my high was,
::
we're gonna have two little reflective,
delightful beings, and yay, more, more
::
goodness that No Shame in the Home Game
has brought into my world, personally.
::
Sara: That's beautiful.
::
I like that.
::
that makes me happy.
::
So my gratitude, yes, one, the wallpaper.
::
I'm so glad that I took the jump
and I did it and I will order more.
::
My moment of gratitude,
it's twofold around birds.
::
I'm sorry, but one is.
::
The first one is, Sarah from participant
one, who is starting pops of joy podcast
::
did a run through with me and she asked
me about mine and I did birds and for
::
somebody to ask me about that joy.
::
Like her whole premise is I don't
want you to convince me to like
::
what you like, but I want to
understand how it brings you joy.
::
And I've never talked about that.
::
And it made me so happy , to
be asked these questions that
::
I've never been asked before.
::
And she said the best thing at the
end, which was, Oh, that was nice.
::
You made me hate it a little bit less.
::
And I was like, that's
the most I could ask for.
::
That's wonderful.
::
Lacey: Yes, plug, Pops
of Joy is the third.
::
Joyful Support Movement podcast that
will be joining our network soon.
::
and it's going to be hosted by, Sarah,
who is a participant from season
::
one, about just the things that bring
people joy and why they bring them joy.
::
And, maybe that's a bonus episode
someday, because that's not even
::
the episode that you're going to do.
::
That was just a run through.
::
Sara: That was just a run through,
but it still made me happy.
::
And on the bird note.
::
I was sitting here in my office
editing this morning and out my
::
window, which looks into my backyard,
I saw this ginormous turkey, this
::
female turkey in my backyard.
::
I got super excited.
::
I grabbed my phone and I was
trying to get a picture of it,
::
but turkeys don't stand still.
::
she was moving and
shaking through my yard.
::
And then I just stopped and I went,
who am I taking this picture for?
::
Nobody gives a shit.
::
And I honestly just laughed at myself.
::
I was like, no one's going
to be as excited about Turkey
::
in my backyard as he is.
::
I am.
::
so I just enjoyed the
turkey . She was big.
::
she would have challenged my dog.
::
for sure, like really
big gal in a healthy way.
::
Lacey: there's a body neutrality here.
::
All bodies are good bodies.
::
Sara: I hope she didn't poop back there.
::
Cause my dog does love
to roll in stinky poop.
::
I should go check that actually,
now that I'm saying that out loud.
::
Lacey: Oh,
::
Sara: that's my joy.
::
Lacey: I do get joy from
you getting joy from birds.
::
So even though I am not a bird person.
::
I love your joy of birds.
::
I gave Sarah a bird book for her birthday.
::
I'm willing to lean
into other people's joy.
::
I just don't want to
have to be a part of it.
::
That's really what it's about.
::
Sara: and you've infiltrated that in
my brain because as I was taking the
::
picture, I went to take the picture.
::
I'm like, nobody else cares
and I'm like, that's okay.
::
I enjoy it.
::
And then I was like, do I really want
a picture of a turkey in my phone?
::
I do not.
::
So I didn't take the picture.
::
That's the thing is I don't
take pictures of birds.
::
So I don't know why I was about to start.
::
Anywho, huh?
::
Thank you for listening to my story.
::
Lacey: I also want to take a minute that
I think it's beautiful that you love
::
birds and you got to have that moment.
::
that moment would have been wasted on me.
::
And you got to have that moment.
::
So I am grateful for that.
::
I think that is cool and wonderful.
::
Cause I would have just looked
out there and been like, Oh
::
my gosh, that's a big turkey.
::
I don't want to go outside.
::
is that turkey going to hurt me?
::
I don't even know what I would do if a
wild turkey and I got in the same space.
::
If there's geese, I like
get away from geese.
::
I don't trust them.
::
I don't like them.
::
They're mean,
::
Sara: I'm with you on the geese.
::
I have no desire to dwell
on the presence of geese.
::
Lacey: And they don't want you to either.
::
Sara: I know
::
Lacey: they would like
us to all not with them.
::
Just not.
::
Sara: Oh, anywho.
::
moments of gratitude, Tyra episode two.
::
It's okay to be grumpy.
::
Lacey: I can't believe we've
already made it to third
::
episodes with our participants.
::
So we're going to wrap up
Ashley's story next week.
::
And it's going to be new to me cause
I wasn't there for Ashley or Tyra's
::
final one cause Lacey be sick.
::
And so I'm excited to know what happens.
::
Sara: I'm editing and listening and I
too, it's like I'm listening anew because
::
when I'm doing it, I'm participating,
so I'm hearing it very differently.
::
And then when I'm listening,
it's a totally different
::
view, view with your ears.
::
What's that called?
::
Perspective.
::
Thank you.
::
I was like, we need Joe.
::
What do you call it when you
view something with your ears?
::
yes.
::
I am enjoying it all over again.
::
So all good stuff.
::
I hope everyone else is
enjoying it as much as we are.
::
Lacey: Good, great, grand, fantastic.
::
Thank you,