In this episode, I have an inspiring conversation with fitness coach Rebecca Stewart. Rebecca shares her journey with chronic illness, the struggle with a multitude of diagnoses, and navigating rapid weight gain in spite of maintaining an active lifestyle due to her profession. We discuss how the world of fitness and diet culture can lead to a disconnect with our bodies and spark a discussion about body neutrality as an alternative to body positivity. Rebecca gently shares her struggle with her health and subsequent mental health challenges, offering hope and resilience during the ‘middle moments’ of our lives. Much of our conversation centers around Rebecca’s ‘chill mobility’ method, which encourages small simple movements to improve overall health, regardless of physical fitness level. Essentially, the episode underscores the importance of trusting our bodies and embracing change, regardless of where we are on our personal health journey.

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Lacey:

Welcome to sharing the middle where we're covering perfectionist

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overachievers, and anyone in the middle

of a struggle come together to learn,

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to embrace the messy metals of life.

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I'm Lacy, your friend

in the middle and guide.

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Who's claimed a theme this week is

getting this podcast to you all.

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know it's been a little

sparse around here lately.

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We're doing some really cool things over

at no shame and the home game and the

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new to come joyful support movement.

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If you're a new listener

or an old one, I've got.

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illness and children and your girl

is doing her best, doing her best.

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I am really excited to share

today's episode with you.

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I found Rebecca Stewart

on Tik TOK last year.

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Her chill mobility has really helped

me think about, my body , and.

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Moving it in ways of what it

needs, not necessarily what.

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Other people tell me to do.

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I kind of instantly fell in love with

Rebecca and she's kind of one of those

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souls for me that I'm just so drawn to.

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And you'll, you know, here.

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That in this episode, I'm so

excited for you to hear it.

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We're coming up on the year

anniversary of sharing the middle.

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And we've got some changes

coming in, all those things.

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So I just wanted to again,

say, thanks for being here.

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I love sharing the metal with you.

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And let's jump right in.

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Well, you

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So much for joining me today, Rebecca.

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I have been a fan of yours

on TikTok for a long time.

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Track 1: And so I was like, you know what?

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I'm just gonna shoot my shot and see

if she'd be willing to chat with me,

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because I love the Chill mobility series.

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That's what kind of pulled

me into your account.

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but I also just love your kind of

philosophy about, fitness, which can

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be really intimidating for a lot of

people and With all this like dike

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culture and it's a really scary space

and I find you to be a very comfortable

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spot in that very scary space.

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So thanks for joining me today.

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Thank you.

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Track 1: Yeah.

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That is like the biggest

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compliment I could ever receive.

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Like it makes me honestly tear

up whenever I get a comment that

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like someone feels like I'm a safe

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space because that's all I wanna bring

to the fitness world, So Thank you.

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I really appreciate

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Track 1: Absolutely.

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Well, thank you for, being that, because

you know, . You've got your, post about

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drink water, and I'm like, oh yeah.

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Have I drank water?

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I'm usually pretty good.

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We have a very hydration,

uh, oriented household.

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Both of my children are the most

hydrated children you'll ever meet.

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My husband, we like, we all have

giant water bottles, but every

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once in a while I'm like, wait, I

haven't drank out of my water today.

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Thank you

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If you're listening right now,

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make sure you take sip of water.

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You what, I'm gonna take a sip right now.

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I've got my water right here.

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Me too.

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Let's do it.

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Track 1: but why don't you

introduce yourself in your

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own words for the listeners.

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I always struggle

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with this, I never know what's gonna

come out, but, I am a fitness coach,

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mobility and strength special specialist.

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and I came into the fitness world

in the height of diet culture.

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My goal is to just create an inclusive

and accessible and supportive space for

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people to be in fitness because so much

of the fitness world that a lot of us

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grew up in is not that or was not that.

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and I think we're still trying to shift

the mindset that exercise can look

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like a lot of different things and

it doesn't have to be like an all out

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go hard or go home type of workout.

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Even moving your body for just a

little bit can make a big difference.

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So that's kind of what,

what I do in this space,

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To just try and make the fitness world

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a little better.

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Track 1: and I believe

you are so way to go.

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thank you.

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Track 1: I have a silly kind of question.

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I know what mobility is,

but would you be able to

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define that

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Sure.

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Yeah.

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So mobility is working

through the end range.

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Motion or mobility?

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No.

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Should take that word out there.

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Let's start over.

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you can't define a word by using the word.

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so mobility is.

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Using your body through the end range

of motion you have in your joints and

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mobility work helps us to increase

the range of motion that we have.

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So it's a little bit different from

flexibility in which your, body's just

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moving typically a little more passively.

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Mobility is the active range

that you have with your body.

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Does that

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'cause that's what I've always been

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trying to figure out is the difference

between mobility and flexibility.

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'cause my brain kind of

sees them at the same thing.

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, We'll start with our first question.

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when you first heard the middle,

what was your initial reaction?

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The middle to me really feels like

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that space between where you have

been and where you want to be.

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I was a, an athlete growing up, so I've

always been the person that's like setting

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goals and doing all that kind of stuff.

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but I have found too, 'cause I have

multiple chronic illnesses too.

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I know that you understand that world.

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sometimes the middle can be not

being able to see what the end is,

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I feel like sometimes with chronic

illness, we just live in the middle

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Track 1: we do.

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Which is part of the reason why

I started this thing is 'cause I

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was like, oh, this, there is no

cure for what I'm going through.

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I just have to figure this out and

figure out what life looks like here.

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There's no finish line, or magical

drug or treatment, what I mean?

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That kind of thing.

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We can jump right into your middle moment.

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We were talking, gonna talk through.

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feel like mine's a little bit twofold,

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but, this most recent chronic illness

journey, I'll say, because I've been

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through a lot of them at this point.

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I think I have four or five of them.

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I don't even know.

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I stopped

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counting

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Track 1: It is like a collector's edition,

I have like before my life changing

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one, I guess I like, I am like, yeah,

I got a couple over those, so I get it.

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Yeah.

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So anyone that's been in that like

chronic illness diagnosis stage,

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some of them are very cut and dry,

but some of them are not at all.

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and that was my most recent experience.

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I started having these symptoms, as

ly as like probably December,:

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and It was really impacting my

life and my ability to do my job.

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And, the way that I was able

to move my body, which is huge

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when I'm like in the fitness

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world and my body is my job,

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so I was having all these wild symptoms.

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It took me, ended up taking me.

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Five doctors to get some

form of a diagnosis.

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but I still that was just back in, in

July, early August, so I still feel

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like I'm in the middle because it's

not really an official diagnosis.

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It's This medication seems to be helping.

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So we'll continue to write

it up and see what happens.

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Track 1: I do know.

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I do know from my own experience,

it's interesting to hear you say, well,

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I have kind of a diagnosis, which is

relatable for me, but this idea that like

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a diagnosis feels like it's an achie,

like a goal you're trying to achieve.

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And even when you get it, you're like,

wait, maybe it's not an end point.

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And it's really hard and confusing to be

able to even define anything, even when

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you get a definition of what's going on.

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It almost feels like a diagnosis

in the chronic illness world is

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like the new beginning of the

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middle, because now you're

just like starting over your

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life with this new context,

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but it never really is going

to end for the most part,

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Track 1: I also find

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diagnosis is about other

people, not about you.

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It's about being able to tell

other people what's going on.

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It's about being able to tell

doctors, insurance companies,

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all that stuff, what's going on.

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But at the end of the day, it

doesn't change what you're going

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through in a lot of cases because

most chronic illnesses I've found

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Don't have that clear cut

answer there aren't like, oh,

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we treated doing this, and this.

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It's let's throw all these different

things at it and see what happens.

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it's one of those things that you're

like, I have felt, maybe I should say I

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feel that I've been like reaching for,

but the more that I get closer to one,

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I'm like, oh, this is for everybody else.

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. That's so real.

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I was talking, I just, started working

with a therapist shortly after I

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got this, like pseudo diagnosis

and she was talking to me and she

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was like, so how does it feel?

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'cause she's amazing.

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She's actually previously

a nurse that worked

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with, complex medical cases.

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So I feel really

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blessed to have found her.

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I feel like she's the perfect fit for me.

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but she was like, so how does it feel?

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And I was like, it just, and maybe

this is because I have been through

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so many diagnosis at this point, I

was just like, it just feels like

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another day, like now I just keep

moving forward and hopefully we have.

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More information.

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Hopefully things are gonna start

feeling better, at the end of the

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day, there's nothing I can do to

change the fact that I have it.

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Track 1: I also wonder, and we

don't have to talk about this

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if you don't have to, but I know

that you have type one diabetes.

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Which makes everything

way more complicated.

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And I just, I am curious if that

prevented you from getting diagnoses.

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'cause everyone wanted to

attribute everything to you that

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yeah, I think more so, not as much the

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diabetes, but I do also have

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Track 1: Well preach.

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Woo woo.

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.That's one of mine too.

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I'm like, yeah, I got that one.

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Check mark

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Track 1: I'm like, yeah, I got that one.

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with this most recent diagnosis was,

I gained 85 pounds in about a year and

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a half.

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and yeah, talk about a huge change.

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And a lot of doctors just wanted to

attribute it to that because they were

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like, you know that happens with PCOS?

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And I was like, yeah, but like

I just had this gut instinct

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that something else was going

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on,

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Track 1: as a person with PCOS, it

happens, but it doesn't usually happen if

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you know you have PCOS and you're managing

it, And so that has always had always

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been a marker for me as well, of Hey,

something else is going on here because

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. I'm doing the same stuff I was before.

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I'm taking all the medicines

you guys want me to take, da.

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And it's still happening.

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So

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at some point we have to recognize,

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I don't have control over that, which

you, I could get on a soapbox about PCOS

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and how unsupportive so many doctors are.

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'cause they don't understand and it's

probably 'cause it's very poorly defined.

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I don't know.

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It's fine.

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Track 1: And everyone's trying their best.

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And because PCOS itself is such a

bucket of symptoms, so for me, when I

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was, so I've, I'm a list mine you don't

have, but, so I have, Hashimoto's.

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I have Hashimoto, so I

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have, which is a thyroid issue.

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So I take thyroid medicine every day.

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I have my PCOS and I have anxiety.

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And so when I started to not

feel right, I was constantly

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attributing it to those things.

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Not as much the Hashimoto's

'cause I'm like, no, I got this.

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We, I have a deficient, like the logic

of my hormones aren't changing that much.

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You know what I mean?

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I'm still taking my medicine every day.

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It shouldn't have this.

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but PCOS and anxiety, I,

they're real easy to attribute.

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Everything too.

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And it took me a while to even recognize

that what was going on with me was

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so different because of those things.

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know, Because when you have one

chronic illness, you are more likely

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to have another chronic illness.

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same with like autoimmune diseases.

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If you have one autoimmune disease,

you're more likely to have another one.

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Yet it still feels like an uphill battle

to get people to take you seriously

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about them.

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I feel that because obviously

the type one diabetes, that was

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and then I was like riding the coattails,

have any other issues until,:

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I was diagnosed with both PCOS and A DHD.

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and so I had started on some A DHD

medication just to see if that I was

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having big problems with memory and

concentration and, like gaps in my

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memory, not being able to like, remember

things that had happened in the past.

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And first of all, I had told multiple

doctors that, and it just seemed to go

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over their head and I was like, that seems

like something that we should talk about.

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But, so I tried a DHD medication

and nothing really seems

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to help.

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Which was another indication to me that

something is going on more so than just

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like what I'm currently already dealing

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with,

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Track 1: absolutely.

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And trusting and learning your own

body as one of the hardest things

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that, and I going back to, I blame

diet culture for, I don't wanna say

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I blamed it, but I, so I've always

been big, so my entire life I was

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always the tallest girl in the room.

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I was always big.

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I'm big boned.

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I could lose a hundred pounds

and still be big, It could never,

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that's never gonna change for me.

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and so

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my whole life I have been

fighting my body to not be big

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and I've never trusted my body.

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because of that diet culture, because,

seventh, eighth grade, I'm trying

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diets, So I just, I, it's been radical

really for me, the past year of oh.

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I can actually trust that my

body's telling me something.

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and I imagine for you to go through

such a big change in something

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that's your job, like your physical

job had to have been really tough.

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So I would love to hear more about

that kind of part of this medal.

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myself with more with body

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neutrality, which is just accepting

your body the way that it is.

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And I don't think that you

have to love your body.

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I think that's a really hard

step for a lot of people.

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Just being able to appreciate everything

that your body does for you, and

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the fact that in, in my opinion,

weight gain and weight loss are

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neutral, and weight

maintenance is neutral.

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So there's nothing bad about either

one, but it was the quickness

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with which that gained the weight.

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That told me that flagged my

brain, something is wrong.

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Like people don't just up and gain.

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I was gaining like 15,

30 pounds in a month.

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that's not normal,

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so it's not like you're doing nothing

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and if anything, I was more active

than I had been pre covid because

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pre covid, I was working a desk job.

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I worked at a

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nonprofit.

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so I was more active after the pandemic

started than I had been before.

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And I hadn't changed anything

about my diet or my, eating habits

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or, was more active than not.

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But I would go to doctors and they'd be

like, just, try and eat a little bit less.

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And I'm like, but you never asked

me how much I'm eating to begin

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with that was a really hard

part of be, because movement is

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such a huge part of what I do.

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Like I would have to modify, I'm also,

I had Not competing right now, but

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had been a competitive power lifter.

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so I had to modify the way that

I was lifting weights because

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my body had changed so much, and

ended up injuring my back a little

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bit because of that at one point.

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and just being able to, I, I was

so fatigued with everything that

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was going on with my health.

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My joints were in pain all the time.

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My muscles were in pain all the time.

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So just trying to like .Change

weights out, ReRack weights for my

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clients, and move through my day

and be as active as I needed to be.

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My body was screaming at me

that something was wrong,

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and say, thank you and kudos in your

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explanation of how the weight gain.

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Does not have anything to do

with you and your self-image.

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Like it changed the way you

lived your day-to-day life.

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And I think a lot of times when

people are talking about weight

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gain, they're only thinking about

that physical appearance aspect and

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other people and that kind of stuff.

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And I think that's something that

I've had a hard time figuring out

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in the bo body positivity space of

like where Where are those lines?

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What, how do we talk about our bodies

when there is something wrong and the

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weight gain is a problem, but it's

not because it's a problem in itself.

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it's not necessarily just a problem for

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your appearance, which it can be for some

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people, and I think

it's totally valid too.

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if people do wanna change their

appearance, I'm fine with that.

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But the way that your body moves

through space and the way that.

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You're able to get up and down

from the floor or bend over or

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something can be drastically impacted

by, what, how your body feels.

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Now my brain is just really going into the

physicality of the middle that I haven't

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really thought about before about that,

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about sorry, my brain is like literally

going in 20 different directions

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right now, so I apologize for my

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STI ring.

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But I, it is so interesting

though that our body is always

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in a state of middle, right?

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It's always

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in some kind of process doing something

and we are always in the state of middle.

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'cause you're born, your body's

always doing something and you die.

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And so it's just interesting to think

about the body's experience of the middle.

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I didn't mean to get like super deep.

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I promise.

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bodies are meant to shift and they

do that sometimes to protect us.

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Sometimes it's in response to stress that

we're going through, or sometimes it's in

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response to change in lifestyle habits.

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Sometimes it's just in response to

like When people get pregnant, they

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have to, their body has to shift.

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if you wanna talk about body

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shifting in one way or the

other, that's a huge example of

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of that.

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I haven't been through it, but I know you

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would not recommend it to people.

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my children are the greatest

gift I've ever had in my life.

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I love them more than anything.

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All of that stuff.

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But pregnancy was very difficult for me.

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But I think I also just the more that

we talk about, I'm like, as women,

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I think it, it is probably a little

different for men where they go

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through puberty and then they're just.

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Consistent the rest of their lives.

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Now there's of course, aging and whatnot,

but like women, have a cycle every month

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they go through puberty and menopause.

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They have op, the opportunity potentially

for pregnancy to change their body.

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And so I just, I do think that there is

something about the physical female body

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that Is in more fluxx and is more change.

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And I think that probably

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traditional medicine has not clued in on

that because I, there, there's so many

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things that it's oh, they didn't know this

about women's bodies until 20 years ago.

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school and we didn't know about this.

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'cause women weren't included in

research studies until I don't know the

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exact date, but it was not that long

ago that women started being, have to

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include it in, in research studies.

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Track 1: Yeah, and I bet in the fitness

space especially, which is very masculine,

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male dominated, there's also this element

of, you do this to get this outcome.

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And women's bodies are just so

different in a lot of ways when it

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comes to, I went to their chromosomes.

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And I just wanna say, I'm using

the term women very loosely here.

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we're talking about chromosomes,

which is different than gender.

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I just wanna be very clear.

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But, yeah, it's very.

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Sorry.

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Now my brain was like, Ugh.

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And then, for those who are trans, they're

in a, okay, I'm, I need to calm down.

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I know.

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And so my brain is just really going

through how this change and this process,

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especially thinking about this, where you

are and where you're going is inescapable.

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Yeah, the body is so complex

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and a lot of, fitness culture,

diet culture on the internet.

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it's hard because we have to like, put

out content generally that's so quick,

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so people will pay attention to it.

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But because of that, it turns into

all this Polarizing thinking it's

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either this way or it's this way.

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And there's so much nuance in the

middle that doesn't really get a lot

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of attention on social media because

it's just harder to get that to, quote

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unquote go viral or get the views or

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whatever.

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but yeah, the body is so complex

and it can't be boiled down to

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just, A or B most of the time.

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Track 1: I think that's a

really, great transition.

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'cause I also wanna know about where

you came up with chill mobility

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and how that became what it is.

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which I think really cool.

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Thank you.

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so yeah, chill mobility for me

was just born out of necessity

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of getting myself to move again.

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going through this chronic illness

piece, it's interesting to look back

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on now that I feel like I'm starting

to get to a more positive side

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in my, mental and physical state.

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Things are changing in a positive way now

that I've started on some new medication.

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Looking back, I was in a terrible mental

space and physical space to be honest.

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like last summer, fall, winter, I was, if

we wanna get real candid, like questioning

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whether life was worth it anymore,

if I was going to make it to 35 or

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40 with the way that my body

was so rapidly declining, and my

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body felt so bad all the time.

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And I as a, movement is my job.

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Track 1: Yeah.

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if I couldn't get myself to do my

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mobility work, I was like, I need to

have some sort of accountability out

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there that, if I can just The very first

chill mobility video I put out there.

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I sat down with my coffee.

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I, and I told myself it, it says in the

video, I can have an extra cup of coffee

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this morning if I do my mobility work.

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and so I just put the camera up, I

recorded it and I did a little voiceover.

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I wasn't expecting anything out of it.

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I was just like, if I put these videos

out, maybe it'll help one person to learn

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that Five minutes or less of movement can

make such a big difference in their life.

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Track 1: and I wanna chime in and

it's movement that is so accessible.

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So for me, as a person with a chronic

illness who . Was basically bed bound.

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It's wait, I can, I have the capacity

for a minute or two to sit up

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And, like I would move like from my

legs to have a better hip mobility.

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I don't remember which

one, but it was just like

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Track 1: I could do that.

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And for me, fitness is still a

big question mark because if I,

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with chronic fatigue syndrome,

that could make me go backwards.

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But I, it also could help me build

it up and it's a big old question

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mark and I'm still trying to figure

it out, but knowing it's I can do

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this one thing for my body today of

just, a few minutes of this mobility.

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And it's different than stretching.

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which I actually really like that

it's different from stretching.

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'cause stretching feels very

'cause I'm not flexible.

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I'm like the least one of the least

flexible people you ever meet.

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My whole family is but my body can move.

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It can move from here to

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can move from here to here.

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And so to be able to do those things

that, you know, . Hopefully, I need

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to be better about it, that it could

be something you do for the rest

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of your life to keep you moving.

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so I just wanted to pause there

and say that it's very accessible

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when we talk about movement.

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We're talking about the movement

you do every day, that when you

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do this mobility, it makes your.

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day-to-Day life feel better.

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'cause I'm not about you.

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I'm never like, oh, good stretch.

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I'm gonna be a better person tomorrow.

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That doesn't usually happen for me,

, but with the mobility, I could tell

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the France that my bus, my muscles

and joints are moving differently.

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yeah.

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Yeah.

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What I like to say is that mobility

helps you move with more ease and less

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pain.

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And whether it's you do it in the

morning before you start the day,

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so you feel a little bit better,

or, if you work a desk job or if

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you are, bed bound or chair bound.

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sometimes just a little bit of

movement can help those like aches

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and pains and tightness that you

feel and shift it out just enough

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that things feel a little bit better.

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And that's my goal with to

mobility is just to help people

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just feel a little bit better.

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'cause that can make such a huge impact.

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Track 1: It really can.

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It really can.

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And I think I didn't understand that

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until I couldn't do things.

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And I think, it's sad that a lot of

times we don't necessarily appreciate

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something until you can't do it.

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when I'm, talking, like I, when I try

to help like my mom understand what I'm

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going through, I'm like, okay, I want you

the next time you go to a shower, think

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about every time you lift your arms up.

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If that is hard for you to do, can

you see where, man showers are just

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take a lot, or loading the dishwasher.

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How many times do you bend down to bend

back up when you're doing the dishwasher?

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And it's those little things that

can be really hard specifically

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for me and in what I go through.

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and so I recognize now oh,

when my body does this.

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It is something.

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It's not nothing, and I appreciate it.

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I have one, in-person one-on-one

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client, that I started working with

recently and doing some mobility

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work and strength training, and they.

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Had a pretty severe shoulder injury

and in the shower or like putting on

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deodorant, couldn't reach around to even

touch their other side of their armpit.

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And now since starting doing

mobility work and strengthening that

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shoulder, they can reach over and

do that for the first time in years.

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And you just think about the impact

that has on your life if you can

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shift even that much to be able to

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move.

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to a place that you couldn't before,

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like that has an impact

on your daily life.

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Track 1: absolutely.

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And all the places you can go now.

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Absolutely.

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I do usually like to bookend our

conversation with, a piece of advice.

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'cause I love a good takeaway or tangible.

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So what piece of advice would you like

to maybe either give yourself previously,

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other people, what would you like to say?

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Yeah, I think, it works in both

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accounts for the chronic illness

and the, fitness mobility space.

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just that the one thing that I

always had to hold onto in the

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last year was that there's always

hope that things can get better.

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and sometimes you just need

to find one thing to hold

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onto used to imagine my Future

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self a year ago, I would imagine my

future self just saying, wait for me,

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because think, oh my God, I'm gonna cry.

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wait for me because things

are gonna get better.

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and if you can have one thing that you

can hold onto whatever that is, whether

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it's reaching out to a friend or knowing

that Just moving a little bit every day is

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gonna make you feel a little bit better.

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Find one thing to hold onto because

that can make all the difference.

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Track 1: I really love that.

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I also, it's very timely for me

because we're almost to what I'm

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calling, like my year anniversary of

my . I'm like, it's disability really.

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where my life drastically

changed and I didn't know where

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I would be a year from then.

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So to think of like

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me then to see me now of Hey,

you're still working through it.

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All this cool stuff.

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That's really cool.

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So thank you.

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I really appreciate

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that

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Think it's important too to life

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is always gonna have its ups and

downs, but when you're in the

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downs, there can, there's only up

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to go,

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Track 1: Absolutely.

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is a cliche thing that everybody

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says, but there's always hope

that things can get better.

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You never know what could

happen tomorrow or a

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year from now.

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Track 1: thank you so

much for joining me today.

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Where can people find you?

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All of that good stuff.

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yeah.

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I'm on all the social medias,

at Rebecca stewart.co.

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and I can, I think

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Track 1: Yeah, I'll put

those all in the show notes.

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perfect.

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but yeah, you can find me

on Instagram and TikTok.

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I'm much more active on, TikTok, but I'm

trying to get into the YouTube space.

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I have some plans.

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It hasn't happened yet, but we'll see.

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Track 1: It is so much work.

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That's why like we're

recording this video.

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Will I ever do anything with it?

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Probably not 'cause it's so much work.

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It's It really is

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Track 1: So I, I don't blame you at all.

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thank you for sharing

the middle with me today.

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I really appreciate it and, for

sharing and being vulnerable.

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Thank you.

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Yeah.

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Thank you for doing this because it's,

I told you by DM a while back, I was

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going through a really tough time

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this summer and listening to one of

your episodes, I don't remember who

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was on it, but it was an episode about

grief and that really helped me in

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that period of time that I was in.

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so I thank you for starting

this and doing what you're doing

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because it's making a difference.

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Track 1: Oh, thank you.

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I needed to hear that today too.

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