Welcome to Season 2!

Welcome to No Shame in the Home Game, the podcast that cares

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how your home feels, not looks.

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I am Lacey, your co

host here in season two.

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We're so excited.

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And here is Sara, our, hostess

with the mostest co host.

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Welcome.

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Hi, Sara.

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Sara: Hi, Lacey!

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I am so excited to hear that season two.

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I just, my heart is overflowed with joy.

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I can feel the tears coming up.

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This is, I've wanted this for so

long to help more people and it

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feels like it's coming together

and this season is so beautiful.

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It just, it fills my heart with joy.

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It's so beautiful.

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It's weird because I'm telling

the audience who hasn't listened

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yet, but we know what's coming.

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And it has reaffirmed the work that I do.

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I'm putting that joy ripple out

there and I can actually feel it.

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I can see it happening and it's so cool.

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Do you feel the

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Lacey: Absolutely, and I think, for

me, this season's a little different

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because, 1, I'm not a participant.

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you'll get updates about me and Joe

in our home and that kind of stuff.

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I'm sure and our postseason stuff, but

I, I don't know these people as well.

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our participant, Alex, she's

1 of my dearest friends.

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I really don't know these people and it's

been so fascinating to really come in as

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a complete outsider and hear these people

because all three of our participants are

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really in different stages of life, too.

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they've got different things going on.

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And so to hear how that.

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A lot of the same things, as I

know you've said before, Sara come

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up for them that come up for me.

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I just.

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I would say that I think there are a lot

more tearful moments this season too.

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idea what

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Sara: see the extension of your feelings

and the history and how it's affecting

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the feelings of those in your house, when

you really go into that mindset, That's

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when magic really starts to unlock.

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And I think season two feels a lot

different too, because with season one,

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season one, it was our first time around.

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Like we were really getting

our footing with the format and

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how we wanted to frame things.

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And so I felt like this season, I felt

like we were able to get to the meat

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of it a little bit quicker, which.

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Is worth to me.

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I love that part.

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I, that's the part I wanna get.

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I wanna get into the good juicy inside.

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I felt like it was more, I don't

wanna say compact, that's not the

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right word, but it was more hearty.

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I don't know, do, what's

the word I'm looking for?

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Like that mors, that

goody morsel was there

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Lacey: It's juicy,

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it's, yeah, you get to

the heart of it faster,

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Sara: two is juicy.

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Lacey: we'll tell you more this season

later on, but Sara and I wanted to take

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the opportunity in this 1st episode

of the season to just reintroduce

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you to how this is going to work,

what we hope you come into it mindset

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wise with and all of that stuff.

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So just a quick reminder that

here at No Shame in the Home Game.

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We are going to tell the story of our

three participants who are making changes

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over the course of three months, and

we are going to check in with them.

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Every month to see, how

suggestions that Sara has made

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change things and adjustments.

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And so we're going to get

to visit them 3 times.

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And each time we get a little bit

deeper into their home and how

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it runs and why it runs the way

that it runs really to highlight.

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We all have a lot of the same issues.

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And a lot of the same hangups

and that we are not alone when

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it comes to our home management.

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Check

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Sara: Which is exactly the core

root of why I started, why I

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invented home management consulting.

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Because I was in so many homes,

and I was hearing the same thing.

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Things don't feel good, they're

not smooth, everyone else can do

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it better, I don't know what to do.

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But we weren't all saying it in the open.

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And that's why I feel like No

Shame is so powerful, because

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it's taking away that facade.

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Of peachy keen, and we can all just

admit, I want this to feel better.

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How do you do it?

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Right?

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So the goal is, is that you listen.

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And Lacey said, there's going

to be something inside that

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you're going to connect with.

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It may not be each

participant's origin story.

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It may not be each of the

participants particular.

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Cause we hone in on one thing

that we want to work on.

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Because that's realistic with

three episodes, we're not going to

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tackle everything, but you might

hear something, a mindset, a tip,

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a tool, something that is going to

go, Oh, that's something I can use.

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And I also want to remind our audience.

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we are so appreciative that these three

participants are opening up the door

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to their home and they're showing us

the inner workings of their house.

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And that's a vulnerable space.

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So let's just take a moment to appreciate.

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I always hear about those shows

where it's couples therapy or

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something where it's a reality show.

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And these people are being

like so vulnerable, right?

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And I'm like, wow, like that's a strength

to be that, that open and vulnerable.

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So let's honor and respect that the people

are showing us what isn't feeling good.

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And they're willing to share

that for the benefit of others.

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Lacey: Yeah, and I think it's also

important to highlight that people

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can be vulnerable like this when it

is an environment of no judgment.

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And that's right.

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No shame.

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We are not here to judge.

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How they do things.

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We're not here to judge how we do things.

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It is a shame free space where

we're tackling the problem as

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it is not as we think it should

be or all of these other things.

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I think it's important for

you, dear listener to remember.

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There ain't no judgment here.

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This is a judgment free zone and

hopefully that can also lead into

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your own home management to stop the

judgment because it's hard not to.

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Sara: Well, and on that note.

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I love that whole thing

from that hair club for men.

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I'm not just the president.

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I'm a member too.

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Like every time I do one of these

episodes, I'm reminded of the shame

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and the guilt that I, I may not

realize cause it's not screaming, but

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I uncover another layer for myself.

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Oh, I'm actually really draining

my energy when I shame myself for.

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I don't know, not making more

nutritious meals every single

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day of the week, or when I'm not

nailing my grocery plan every week.

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So it is also reminding me how much

I need to, not forgive isn't the

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right word, but accept, just accept.

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Because life, is not always

a bowl of sunshine and roses.

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And Life just keeps happening,

which during this season, you will

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actually hear with our participants.

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We really embrace what life is

throwing at each of our participants.

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We roll with it.

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There's always this feeling of oh,

I'm sorry I didn't get to ABC because

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of All these things that happen

and it's just yep, that's life.

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Yep.

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Let's, we're not going to edit out life.

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This is what's really

happening behind in your house.

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and let's fold it in because good

intentions are awesome, but then we

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have to flex and allow for reality.

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Lacey: I think another thing this

season that we really highlight to.

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that is so beneficial for me.

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Is the fact that just one tiny

step moves you closer to what

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you want and how you feel.

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No adjustment is too big, too small.

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Whatever feels the best is the right path.

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And we've talked about

this many a times before.

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Your house is different than their house.

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It's different than my house.

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It's different to Sara's house.

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And what needs to be

done is different too.

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Very much just, I love our little

space of no judgment and this is how

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it is and all of that good stuff.

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Sara: I love it too.

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I feel like a mama bird.

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Have you ever actually seen a chicken when

the little baby chicks go under the mama?

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Have you ever seen that?

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Lacey: I've never actually seen it.

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I, my brain pictured something,

but I don't know if it's right.

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Sara: a really safe place to show

up and to not be judged and to

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feel like you can share what's

going on and to feel supported.

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And that is, the extension of no shame

in the home game and sharing the middle.

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It's just mama bird, come here.

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Like all you little bit.

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Come here.

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I want to give you the safe.

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My neighbor has chickens.

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So I've got to witness a lot

of chicken things and that's.

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That's why my analogy went there.

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I also really like to mama bird people.

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Lacey: you're very good at it.

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Sara: so if you're listening to this

season, last season, this season, whatever

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you resonate with and if something in

your heart just wait, there's a chicken,

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Lacey: Did you call a chicken to you?

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You have binoculars right there by you.

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Sara: Yeah.

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Okay.

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So if you listen to season

one, you know, I'm a bird nerd.

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Lacey: I'm taking a screenshot of this.

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I

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Sara: I'm going to have to go mama

bird those chickens after this.

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Anyone who's listening, if you get

that little warm, fuzzy feeling.

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And you just feel that recognition

of acceptance, what are those

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warm fuzzy feelings that you feel

when we're recording or listening?

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Lacey, do you get any of those?

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I do.

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Lacey: What would I call them?

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I

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Sara: Fuzzy nuggets?

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Lacey: don't know.

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That sounds a little weird to me.

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I think of chicken nuggets and then I

don't want my chicken nuggets to be fuzzy.

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We just talked about chickens.

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Home tingles, right?

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Sara: Thank you.

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Hong tingles.

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If anyone gets those good

feelings inside, come join.

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Like you can get more of those.

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That's, that is why Lacey

and I are working together.

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Cause we want to spread

those yummy, good feelings.

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Mhm.

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Mhm.

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Sara: One of our participants, Tyra.

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Lacey: Lights up.

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a room and we feel it

miles and miles away.

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She is magnetic and every time we

are done talking to her, Sara and

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I both are like, I feel amazing.

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She's amazing.

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She's magic.

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I think is what I said last time.

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Sara: I've been so lucky.

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I support the participants between

episode recordings and I've done a lot

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of back and forth with Tyra over Voxer

So we do audio messages and I texted her

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one day and I said your voice is like

sunshine And it was actually a really

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good tool for me because when she would

slip into the mindset Sort of that old

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mindset that was weighing her down.

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I could actually hear it in her

voice and I could see it on her face.

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And it was night and day and I was

like, Oh, that's how did we get there?

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Okay.

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And so when she's in

that sunshine magnetic.

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That's when the stuff is happening

and it's unlocking and it's clicking.

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And then as soon as those

shame, that's what it was.

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It was those shame thoughts.

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I don't want to give too much

away, but there's a teaser for you.

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you get to witness some

real time shifting.

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It's amazing.

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Lacey: it is.

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So we have, Tyra, who is a retired

homeschool mom and her, process

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of turning her home into a post.

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School, right?

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Going into this aspect of retirement,

being able to focus on herself

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and her businesses, she's so cool.

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Sara: I want a spinoff podcast called

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Lacey: time with Tyra.

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Sara: time with Tyra.

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Yeah.

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I love her story and journey

because it goes to show about how

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every phase in your life, it's

different requirements and needs.

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Your home serves many

purposes any given day.

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But then if you look at different time

periods in your life What needs to happen

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really changes and to be aware of that.

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And I think that's what we did a lot

for her is to shine the awareness on.

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It was a different chapter in her life.

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and we get to help her through that.

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I went clothes shopping the other day and

I said to the lady, when I was checking

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out, I said, Oh, I just got to that

point where I'd open up my closet and

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it felt like somebody else's clothes.

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So if you're walking around your

house and there's a part of your house

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where you just feel like this isn't

mine, like this feels like a previous

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version of me or somebody else's.

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Yeah, that means you're in a

different chapter in your life.

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And you have to

intentionally shift things.

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Lacey: it takes time to shift things.

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It's not going to happen all at once,

I think is another big thing that we

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forget, it's not like, I woke up today

and everything is done for me and it's all

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perfect, hunky dory, sunshine rainbows,

no, it takes time, takes emotions,

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it takes effort, and it's, Yeah, her

story is special and we adore her,

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we are also going to be following Ashley

this season Ashley feels like she has her

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life together so much that it almost feels

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like she shouldn't need her.

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Sara: Yeah.

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oh, completely.

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So Ashley jokes that me and her are

twin flames, which I think is hilarious.

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The work she does, she is an

occupational therapist by training.

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And then when lots of things

change, she ended up shifting her

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focus to Calendars and planners.

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And how do you communicate

as a family unit?

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So no one person is, knows

everything that's going on.

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And so she applied that

occupational therapy mindset of

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reducing the points of friction.

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And so the way I see things in a

very tangible way, she's doing.

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All of the appointments and lists

and so she's doing all that.

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So yes, we speak very

much the same language

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and we're talking.

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I'm like, I don't, how can I help you?

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Lacey: But I think it's really

important and I think that's 1

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of the reasons why it's so great.

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We're working with her is even people

that we think have everything all

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together and perfect and planned and

because her planners are like, beautiful

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and simplistic and just gorgeous and.

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Sara: wait.

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We got to do, shout out dovetail

designs, calendars, planners,

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meal systems, analog and digital.

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I'm a convert.

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Go ahead.

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Sorry.

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I interrupted you,

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Lacey: Even she, and we're

only going to tackle one.

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We ended up actually having

quite a few different things

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we talked about in her house.

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Even she has this strain that is pulling

her energy down, that is not making

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her own feel how she wants it and that,

it should be better, should be this.

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She also has four kids, which

every time we talk, I'm like,

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Oh my gosh, you are amazing.

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How do you do this?

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Sara: And run a business and

she has multiple animals.

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I know.

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She's just one of those Energizer bunnies.

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What I like about

Ashley's is she very much.

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Is already on board with what I call

like the home CEO, junior mindset of

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your children are going to be managing

their own living spaces one day.

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And so setting them up with the

tools of success, she has a space

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that they are supposed to manage,

but she can't be totally hands off.

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She's finding that bridge between

how do I let them have this space and

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ownership and yet still maintain it.

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And It's totally different.

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each participant is so different, but

she has a great mindset about that.

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She needed help thinking it out of

how do we go about this and tackle it.

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Ashley's fun.

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Her type of humors.

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I like

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it.

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Lacey: too.

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It always takes me by surprise.

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That's what I love about it.

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Then we have Teresa who, struggles

a lot with meal planning and

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feeding her family and all of the

stuff that goes along with that.

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Sara: Yes.

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So full disclosure, Teresa and I have

known each other for quite a long

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time We used to live right around the

corner from one another but we live

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in different states now So there's

a level of comfort with Teresa that

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you'll hear is a little bit different

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so I also know how she approaches things.

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So I had, a leg up on knowing

how she was approaching it.

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And I really saw with

Teresa mindset was actually.

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Going to be more 70 30, 70 percent

mindset, because she was juggling,

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as you'll hear, she's juggling a lot.

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She kept her expectations the same.

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And it's just, I, one of the tenants

I always say is, if you can't dip

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into your three buckets of resources,

then expectations need to shift.

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And I know we were able to make

a shift with her that was pretty

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powerful and was able to unlock a whole

avenue of options once she relaxed

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into this new expectation mindset.

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And I was really excited for her because

that was really draining her energy.

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So that felt powerful too.

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Lacey: and, Teresa, she has an

energy that's like a warm blanket

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to me of Oh, I just enjoy.

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Hearing her talk and it really

helps that spoiler alert.

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She gets a puppy and then Sara and I watch

the puppy Wow, she talks at one point.

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So there's lots to come with that

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, Sara: Theresa is so funny the way she's

just like, let's add this in, she's

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almost got a very Alex vibe that way,

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where it's just like, yeah,

let's do this and this.

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So yeah, the new puppy was funny.

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And Also, side note, Teresa's a massage

therapist and I have to say a massage

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by Teresa is another worldly experience.

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She is so in tune with the body

and the healing and the letting go.

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, you can see the way she just she connects

and that's where her strengths are that's

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where her so she was expecting Herself

to be not only the best masseuse But the

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best home cook and the best Dog trainer

that felt very valuable So that she can

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go to work because she loves what she does

But she can go to work and show up and

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give the best There goes that ripple that

1 percent ripple so she can show up and

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give a 1 percent more to her clients So

they feel 1 percent better going out into

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the world that felt really powerful and

again knowing her as a Friend, it means

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so much to me to be able to work with her,

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Lacey: and I really feel like I she

and I connected about a lot of those

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same like Shoulds and all that stuff.

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yeah, each of our participants this season

are so cool and special in their own ways.

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And I am so honored to be.

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Really just a spectator in their journey.

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Sara does the work and I'm just

like, oh, my gosh, this is great.

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Sara: I couldn't do it without you.

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And that's, but that goes back

to some of the tenants of home.

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CEO is recognizing what needs to be done.

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Who does what better?

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And why your values like we're doing

this cause we are very passionate

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about helping people enjoy life more.

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We know why we're putting the work in.

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We know where Lacey's skills are and

they are not where my skills are.

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We are very two different

skill set people.

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Lacey: Go back and listen to

our human design episodes and

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you'll hear a lot about that.

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Sara: Every episode we

end, I just feel so good.

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Like so warm and gooey.

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I always just be like, Oh,

everything's good, man.

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Lacey: you are magic.

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Our participants each have several

times said in some way or another.

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That you are magic.

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So of course you feel that way.

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Sara: But that's what's so cool

is I'm not magic in a vacuum.

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It's a two part chemical formula.

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I'm only magic when people are

open to the process and they

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do the back and forth with me.

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That's where the magic,

it has to be both people.

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I can't come in and do anything

unless somebody is showing up.

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So there's, Oh, I just got goosebumps.

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Cause it is like magic

and it is so much fun.

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it's just so much fun when

people are open to it and it's so

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Lacey: We, we hope that, our dear

listeners get a little bit of that

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magic too, cause it's so great.

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It really is.

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Sara: It is so good.

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Mhm.

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Mhm.

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Sara: just A reminder too, No

Shame in the Home Game is based

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off of the work that I do.

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Which we are putting into

a course called home CEO.

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Not every single person can

be a participant on the show.

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Not every single person I

can work with one on one.

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I only have so much time in the day.

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I went from one-on-one consulting to doing

a podcast so I could help more people.

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And then we created the course

to help even more people.

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So if you are looking for solutions and

you like the process and approach that we

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do on this podcast, home, CEO is a DIY.

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These are the steps, this is how we do it.

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And so you can start to

implement some of those steps.

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Lacey: And so we've been talking

about OMCEO for over almost a

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year now, and it is happening.

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we have All the elements all together,

and, we'll be launching it, at the

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end of March is our current plan.

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it is happening.

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for realsies.

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Sara: It is happening and I have trusted,

I've really been focusing on it is going

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to happen at exactly the right time.

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We haven't pushed, we've

been really excited,

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Lacey: So

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Sara: but we haven't pushed.

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We've just allowed each piece to

unfold exactly as it's needed to.

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Which feels much better

than pushing the solution.

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Lacey: and it also is

getting bigger and bigger.

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I feel like every day, we're like,

oh, we should add this, and this video

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should go with this worksheet, and da.

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that's also part of it.

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Sara: I feel very expansive when I did the

home harmony program with Corey Whiteland,

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our executive functioning coach expert.

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It was supposed to start out as a

20 minute conversation, me and her.

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And then that turned into, Hey,

we should make this a course.

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I thought it was going to

be three 15 minute videos.

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It turned into three 45 minute videos.

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So there's just, it's I

want to help everybody.

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So I just keep mushrooming it out because

I want it to be more and more, but.

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Yes, it's got to just

come out at some point

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Lacey: And it will.

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Sara: and it will, and it

is, we're in the future now.

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It is out.

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Lacey: It is out.

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We've made it happen.

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Got a few

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tweaks and finishing work

to do, I personally am not a

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home management consultant.

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I am barely a home management co host.

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I have taken a lot of the tools in HomeCEO

and it has really helped my household.

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Every single piece of it is maybe not

going to be for you, and that's fine.

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So remember, just one little step.

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One percent better.

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It's the magic of compound interest.

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A little bit, and a little bit.

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And over time, it becomes a lot.

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Sara: Yes.

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And anyone listening, because Lacey

just gave that full disclaimer of

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not being a home management expert.

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And I just want to say, this is

not something I was born with.

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I very much learned through struggle.

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Lacey: it's

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Sara: good.

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How can I do this differently?

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I am very much the person who's I've

done this, I've seen what's worked, I've

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done this, I've seen what doesn't work.

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I've very much been in the trenches,,

I don't want anyone to be intimidated.

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You know, when you see the covers on

those like really nice magazines of

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everything's color coded and everything's

perfect and nothing's out of place and

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there's no dust, that's not what I am.

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That's not what this is.

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This is.

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Let's make your home operation

smoother, whatever that looks like.

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Lacey: whatever it looks like, and

hopefully it looks like how you

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want it and how it works for your

home and how it makes you feel good.

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Sara: This is the start of

a really happy revolution.

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Lacey: Absolutely.

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Absolutely.

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we're excited for you to hear season 2.

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since we're kicking off the season

and we're doing our participant

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episodes, they are every week.

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So every Friday, you'll get a new

episode of no shame in the home game and.

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Sara, and I cannot wait

for you to join us.

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Sara: We're very excited.

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Thanks for coming along with this journey.

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Lacey: I'm so excited.

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I'm always excited.

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We should still do what, what

we're feeling grateful for,

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Sara, at the end of this episode.

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Sara: Anyone who's new here, we do

Moments of Gratitude at the end.

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Which, oh my gosh, full circle,

this is based off of Moments

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of Zen from The Daily Show.

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Jon Stewart.

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Lacey: on Mondays!

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Sara: So that's going to be my moment

of happiness because Jon Stewart, he

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doesn't know it, but he is sort of a

foundation in my scaffolding of coming

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of age, of learning how to think

critically, but with humor, I remember

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when he first took over the Daily

Show and that was a staple for me.

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And when he left.

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it was really, that

was a big thing for me.

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And so with him coming back and

it's just on Mondays, but I eat it

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up and it is so good for my soul.

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And again, it's that whole, like we

can do tough things and still laugh

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because if you don't laugh, you're

not going to do the tough things.

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Jon Stewart, you are my

masthead on this ship.

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Lacey: The ship of life.

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Sara: On the ship of life.

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I said that just to be silly.

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Cause I pictured, like back in the

day when they had like those women,

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those busty women and they'd be on the

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Lacey: Well it's a

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Sara: I was just picturing,

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Lacey: She's got the flowing hair

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and yeah.

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Sara: I just pictured Jon Stewart

like on the front of a ship,

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like hanging out over the water.

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Lacey: His pen is like poking out.

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yeah.

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I can see

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it.

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I see it in my mind's eye.

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I am, feeling grateful for

historical romance novels and genre.

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I had a strong historical romance

period in my, Late teens, and right now

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I've just picked it back up, and the

joy that it brings me, it just does.

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specifically really into Tessa

Dare books right now, NBD.

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don't tell me what to read, because

then I'll resent it and then not read

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it, because that's what I did with

Bridgerton, is everybody was like, watch

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Bridgerton, and I'm like, don't tell me

what to do, and I just not watched it.

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So, I am feeling grateful for the books

themselves, but also, rediscovering a

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part of myself that I haven't, enjoyed, I

don't know, it's just, it's making me very

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happy because I'm thinking of, my friend

who I've read them with and we would talk

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about them and it was, like, scandalous

for us, and all of those different things.

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So I'm just really, I'm enjoying

and basking in that enjoyment.

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Sara: I love that for you.

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Oh.

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Yeah, that's your joy fuel.

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I love

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Lacey: it.

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it is, And I also, it's a, I think

when I was younger, it was a shameful

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thing that I liked my romance novels,

specifically historical romance, because

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they usually get like the, they get

made fun of for the Fabio on the front

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type thing and that kind of stuff.

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And it's no, I know a lot

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Do you?

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Sara: you were gonna, I thought,

and I was looking forward to you

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more specifically saying, I know

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Do you?

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Nazimulai, tell me more.

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We just discovered a new spinoff podcast.

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Lacey: I will say, I don't know

how accurate these books are.

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they're definitely through

a lens of present day, but

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it is, it is not shameful.

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It is joyful and, Whether that's

a joy that you have or not.

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Just love what you love.

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Sara: See, you sound

a little high too now,

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Lacey: do!

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I do.

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You get start getting me to

talk about roads and how cool

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I think systems of roads are.

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And we'll get

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Sara: That's one of my

favorite season one highlights.

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You talking about roads.

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Oh my goodness.

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We're here for the wacky.

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I hope you y'all are

along for the wacky ride.

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You don't have to be wacky, but You

have to appreciate Wacky, because

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we're gonna dish that out every now

and then when you least expect it.

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Lacey: did I think this podcast

episode was going to end with,

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No, I didn't.

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But here we are and I'm so happy for it.

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Sara: that's why I love our talks.

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You never know what

we're gonna talk about.

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Did you know I was gonna talk about

chickens that were halfway between

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my house and my neighbor's house?

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You didn't know

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Lacey: out the binoculars

is a high point of my life.

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I have a screenshot.

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I'm going to post it.

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Like I, it just felt so,

so good in the moment.

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So genuine.

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Sara: So then we end it, you say, Thank you

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Lacey: Sara

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Sara: thank you, Lacey.