Lacey 00:00:04

Welcome to season three of no shame in the home game, the podcast that cares how your home feels, not looks.

Lacey 00:00:12

I am your Lacey.

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I am your lacy.

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I am.

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I'm your lacy listener.

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We're just going to go with that lovely partner and co host, Sarah.

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Hi, Sarah.

Sarah 00:00:24

Hi, Lacey.

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I love that, my Lacey.

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I do love that.

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Sarah, I have a little anecdote to tell you this morning.

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Isaac's been doing this thing.

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I still have yet to get past this part where he says, open the gate.

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And then you open the gate and it's, who's your teammate?

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And I said, him.

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He goes, you're doing it wrong.

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It can't be me.

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He's also, I thought you would say Sarah.

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And I was just bud, you do not know how happy it will make Sarah to know that you thought of her.

Sarah 00:00:52

Oh, I mean, I'm kind of stuck on.

Sarah 00:00:55

I don't know how you did it wrong.

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I don't know what happens next.

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He refuses to do the next fight with me because I keep getting it wrong.

Sarah 00:01:03

I do love that he picked me.

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That makes my heart warm.

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Thank you.

Lacey 00:01:08

And I think that's a great way to start.

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Season three is we're teammates and we're here and we're excited for our new season.

Lacey 00:01:17

That's going to look a little different from previous seasons, but something that I'm excited for us.

Sarah 00:01:24

I too, and we mentioned this at the wrap up of the last season.

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I'm excited to pivot, to try on some new things and see how we can continue to.

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I was gonna be really cheesy and be like, embrace other people in this warm hug of comfort around home management.

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It's like trying out new dance moves.

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Let's mix it up.

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Let's try some new stuff.

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I'm excited as well.

Lacey 00:01:48

Yes, we will have a participant that we follow like we have in previous seasons.

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And I'm really excited about introducing you all to Amy and her journey.

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But we're also going to use this season to check on season one and two participants as well to see what's going on.

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So you're going to hear from Joan Lacy, Alex.

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She's had a baby since we last talked to her.

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I know Sarah has so much going on all the time.

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And of course, our season two participants as well.

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And last but not least, we are opening up our doors to more quick hit question and answer things because every once in a while those pop up one popped up in my life the other day and we're going to talk about it later on of like how do you do this?

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Or what does this look like?

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And so we want to solve some.

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Problems and not just solve.

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Yes, I love solving problems.

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But also, again, it's all about no shame.

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So no shame in having a question.

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No shame in there being a whole slew of different ways to do things.

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Go back to that example of the fitted sheets, and somebody was like, oh, yeah, I put on four at a time and take them off one at a time and wash them.

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I like just opening up that doorway to, like, there's many different ways to do it.

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There's no one right way or wrong way.

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The right way is whatever works for you.

Sarah 00:03:14

So yes to solving problems and yes to just removing any sort of pressure, expectations, any of those crappy feelings.

Sarah 00:03:24

We don't have time for that.

Lacey 00:03:25

Yeah, there's crappy enough feelings coming from all the other stuff in the world.

Lacey 00:03:30

You don't need to put that on yourself.

Sarah 00:03:32

No, we are here to validate whatever your home management experience is.

Sarah 00:03:37

So, yeah, so you can deal with the other crappy.

Lacey 00:03:40

Yeah, that's a big part of the joyful support movement, is that we see the bad.

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It exists.

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It is part of our lives.

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We cannot ignore it.

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And it also does give us the appreciation for the good.

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We recognize the joy as well.

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And then we try to take a step forward to making things just a little bit better.

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So we're hoping that no shame in the home game can help you with that.

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You can submit your own questions@noshameinthomegame.com.

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there is no too big or too small as far as what those will look like.

Lacey 00:04:15

If it gets too big, we can't solve all your problems or brainstorm all of your problems.

Sarah 00:04:21

What would too big be?

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I don't even know.

Lacey 00:04:24

I don't know.

Sarah 00:04:25

I'm up for anything.

Lacey 00:04:26

You're a problem solver.

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You are.

Sarah 00:04:29

I'm like, wait, no, there's no too big.

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If it seems big, then you chunk it down.

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And we look at things individually, and what's too big to one person may not be too big to another person.

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So bring it all on.

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I want to hear it all.

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I want to.

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There is no question.

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Too off the wall.

Lacey 00:04:49

No.

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Too big, too small.

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No.

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Too obvious or too.

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I should know this.

Sarah 00:04:54

No, you just ask.

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And that's the thing, is when people find out what I do and then they realize how truly kind I am and non judgmental, I'll often get these whispered, hushed questions.

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That's why I'm excited to do this Q and A, because people will be like, what do you think about?

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And then they'll ask, and I'm like, yeah, it's a perfectly valid question that you don't have to whisper this.

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I'm not reporting on agency or something.

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We're not taught how to do this.

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We're just expected to know.

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We're here to say, hey, if you don't know, this is a very safe place.

Sarah 00:05:34

We're gonna laugh for sure.

Lacey 00:05:35

That's part of our charm.

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The other thing that I do want to say about the form is you can submit it anonymously if you would like, or you can submit it with your information, and maybe we'll even bring you on to ask you questions and live problem solve with you.

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So, depending on your level of comfort, you can be anonymous or put yourself out there as much as you feel comfortable with.

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So truly, no shame.

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You don't need to worry.

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We got this.

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We got you, and you got questions.

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Sarah has answers.

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I have giggles and sympathy.

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Empathy.

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I go sing.

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Sometimes I need to give myself more credit.

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This is season three, right?

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I've been through two seasons of it.

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I've been a participant.

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I have started being better and better about all of this stuff and coming up with ideas and that kind of.

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Thing, and we all know things.

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I think this goes back to one of my biggest takeaways from college was it wasn't that it taught me what to think.

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It taught me how to think.

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And so when people have questions, it's not that I have the answers all the time.

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It's that I feel really comfortable breaking it down into its parts and then using my resources to find the answers.

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So I'm not all knowing.

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Omnipotent.

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That sounds like a lot of pressure.

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And we have said many times, we're not a cult.

Lacey 00:07:05

We are not a cult.

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I am fallible.

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I like to think that each question is a riddle, even though I may not know the answer right off.

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You can wiggle your way around to a solution that works for you.

Lacey 00:07:18

One of my favorite things to say to my students when I was an academic advisor was, I don't know everything, but I do know a lot.

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So let's try to figure it out together.

Lacey 00:07:28

I've also started saying that to Isaac because I need him to know that I know a lot of things.

Lacey 00:07:33

Stop trying to challenge that.

Sarah 00:07:36

I love that confidence of your kids coming right back at you, because just little mini lacies.

Lacey 00:07:43

Sarah and I had a conversation about our zones of genius and what we naturally are good at.

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It's so funny when somebody else tells you yours.

Lacey 00:07:52

Sarah used the word intrepid for me, which, first of all, I had to look up because my brain just went, oh, that's a car.

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Didn't really know the word.

Lacey 00:08:02

It's basically that I'm bold and brave and not afraid to jump in, which, yes, I guess I do see it, but it also sounds like, no, I'm not.

Lacey 00:08:11

I'm not braid, not bold.

Lacey 00:08:13

But that's my inner voice that has always tried to make me smaller, that I've been trying to say, no, that.

Sarah 00:08:21

Is actually a great point because I think that is the thing about zones of genius.

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We often don't recognize them in ourselves because they come so easily.

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And that goes back to season one participant, Sarah.

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I really learned about zones of genius from her.

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I recognized that when I was working with people in their homes.

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I was like, oh, yeah, everybody has their zone of genius that they overlook.

Sarah 00:08:45

Sarah Berry can throw together a children's party or really cute invitations and all these, like, cute, cutesy little.

Sarah 00:08:56

She's just so good at it, and I am nothing.

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And she doesn't realize, right, because it comes so easily to her.

Sarah 00:09:03

So when you say you don't see that in yourself, I think that's why you need people outside of you to go, no, I see it.

Lacey 00:09:11

And I told Sarah her number one thing is to make people feel seen and understood.

Lacey 00:09:16

That just is an underlying agreement with what she was saying earlier about this being a place of no shame.

Lacey 00:09:22

She is so good at making you feel seen, and I hope you do to your listener, get to feel that where you are.

Lacey 00:09:28

It's one of the most magical parts of our partnership, in my opinion.

Sarah 00:09:33

Thank you, Lacey.

Sarah 00:09:34

That makes my heart warm and fuzzy.

Lacey 00:10:28

Sarah and I were thinking we would do two q and a questions that we, one I got this past week and one that Sarah always gets as a, like, intro to what you could expect.

Lacey 00:10:40

And I think that's a good intro into one of the questions that Sarah gets all the time, which is, does your house look perfect all the time?

Sarah 00:10:48

Oh, my gosh.

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This was a real emotional journey for me.

Sarah 00:10:51

When I decided to do this work, I noticed I got really tense because I started to criticize myself or my house wasn't looking great.

Sarah 00:11:02

So my answer to that immediately, I always just say, no, my house isn't perfect.

Sarah 00:11:07

Cause I wanna put people at ease.

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But there's also no and yes.

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So the no part is no.

Sarah 00:11:15

If you walk in my house, it's not ready for a magazine shoot.

Sarah 00:11:19

There are things that need to be put away.

Sarah 00:11:22

There are always projects in progress.

Sarah 00:11:26

And the biggest thing is I live with other people who do not have the same north Star as I do.

Sarah 00:11:35

And so part of living in a household is coming to.

Sarah 00:11:39

It's going to sound like a hostage negotiation is coming to a.

Sarah 00:11:42

Like an agreement, right?

Sarah 00:11:45

Nobody's going to get everything they want.

Lacey 00:11:47

It's.

Sarah 00:11:47

What do you call that?

Sarah 00:11:48

When two people are sitting at a big table and they're like, I want this, I want that.

Lacey 00:11:52

It's just a negotiation.

Lacey 00:11:53

Just take hostage out of it.

Sarah 00:11:55

So part of what I've learned is, where can I let go and let the other people have more of what they want, and where can I stand firm and say, no?

Sarah 00:12:04

This part is really important to me.

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So is it perfect?

Sarah 00:12:08

Not visually, heck, no.

Sarah 00:12:11

But yes, it's perfect for me.

Sarah 00:12:14

I know where almost everything is in my house.

Sarah 00:12:18

I know what needs to be done.

Sarah 00:12:20

If you were to point at anything, I'd be like, yeah, I'm gonna deal with that.

Sarah 00:12:24

At this point in time.

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I have steps that I know, but it goes back to our three buckets of resources, time, energy, and money.

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And I'm a working mom.

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I only have so much time in a day.

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And even if I have more time, I often don't have the mental energy to deal with one of those projects.

Sarah 00:12:43

It's perfect balance in that I know exactly what direction and what the status is of my house and how far I can push myself and still be a kind human being.

Sarah 00:12:59

I could definitely push myself more, but then there's a version of me that's not pretty, and my family knows what that looks like.

Sarah 00:13:08

I have learned to let a lot go so that I can enjoy my family.

Sarah 00:13:14

Oh, yeah.

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So now, not magazine perfect, but yes, perfect for me.

Lacey 00:13:18

I do want to give a little plug because Sarah and I have been working on home management for kids, and one module that we have added is some tools to have this negotiation in your household of what people want and meeting expectations to come to a place where both you, if you're a parent, and your children who start to take on more responsibility in the household, can both feel empowered.

Lacey 00:13:45

That's something that I am probably the most excited for home management for kids, because I think that's really cool.

Lacey 00:13:49

We're not raising little organizers that are going to go be perfect and whatnot, because that sets them up for failure.

Lacey 00:13:58

So part of the process of teaching them is helping them learn what is and is not important to them, what is and is not important to mom and dad and how to make a cohesive and something for everybody, which, if you think about it, that skill is going to be huge later on.

Lacey 00:14:18

I was never an ra, but the amount of roommate squabbles that I heard about in college is really prevalent and maybe this can help them with that too.

Sarah 00:14:31

Yeah, and that's again why I'm so excited about home management for kids.

Sarah 00:14:34

Because me living in a house now with other people with different goals, values, it really is something I've witnessed in other homes that drains relationships.

Sarah 00:14:48

And again, if your home should be supporting you to enjoy life, like we said earlier, there's enough crap.

Sarah 00:14:56

Coming home is meant to feel restorative.

Sarah 00:15:00

If your vision for what your kid's bedroom should look like is not lining up with what your kid wants or can do, what is that doing?

Sarah 00:15:07

It's just draining your emotional energy.

Sarah 00:15:09

Cup getting really clear on why do we pick things up?

Sarah 00:15:14

Why do we remove the trash?

Sarah 00:15:16

Why do we not shove a wet towel under your bed?

Sarah 00:15:19

But if there's no understanding, that's just conflict.

Sarah 00:15:24

So I'm excited because, yeah, if people could learn this, then maybe there'll be a little, like we said, just 1% more cohesiveness and understanding in those home relationships.

Lacey 00:15:36

Absolutely.

Lacey 00:15:37

Our second q and a question comes from my sister.

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She sent it to our group chat.

Lacey 00:15:43

Does anyone know how to clean a washing machine?

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My response was, you have to clean a washing machine.

Lacey 00:15:48

Like, isn't it wash?

Lacey 00:15:50

Isn't it doing that all the time?

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But I said, I can ask Sarah.

Sarah 00:15:55

And my response when you asked was to laugh and reference new girl.

Sarah 00:16:00

When Nick is pitching a fit about they're trying to figure out who's using which bathroom towel?

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And they're like, what about when you wash it?

Sarah 00:16:07

And he's like, why would you wash your bathroom towel?

Sarah 00:16:10

You're clean when you use it.

Sarah 00:16:12

It's just drying you.

Sarah 00:16:14

Why would your towel need to be washed?

Sarah 00:16:16

I remember one time I posted about cleaning my shower curtain and people are you clean your shower curtain?

Sarah 00:16:22

That's a thing.

Sarah 00:16:23

You can clean everything.

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You don't have to.

Sarah 00:16:26

So yes, cleaning your washing machine, there's so many different ways to break it down.

Sarah 00:16:31

And so first of all, do you have to?

Sarah 00:16:34

No, you don't have to do anything.

Sarah 00:16:36

So then the next step is you can look at it is either a preventative measure or dealing with it when there's a problem, as with so many things in our life, right?

Sarah 00:16:47

If you want to just deal with it when it's a problem, you're going to either see something gross or smell something gross.

Lacey 00:16:54

Now that you're saying that, I'm like, I have had a problem with a washing machine before.

Lacey 00:16:59

A diaper ended up in there once accidentally.

Lacey 00:17:01

What'd you do?

Lacey 00:17:02

It's actually happened twice now.

Lacey 00:17:04

The first one I had to deal with.

Lacey 00:17:05

The second one, Joe, did get all the clothes out.

Lacey 00:17:08

That's what we did.

Lacey 00:17:09

And then try to get.

Lacey 00:17:11

Because the diapers have that, like absorbent, like little things.

Sarah 00:17:16

Yeah.

Lacey 00:17:17

Try to get as much of those off of the clothes as possible into a trash can.

Lacey 00:17:22

And then go through and wipe out the washing machine and then wash everything again.

Lacey 00:17:30

That's what we did.

Sarah 00:17:31

And everything smelled okay.

Lacey 00:17:32

Yeah, it was a pee diaper, so it wasn't.

Lacey 00:17:35

If it was a poop typer, I don't know what I would have done with myself.

Lacey 00:17:38

It would have been a very throw it all away.

Lacey 00:17:40

Get a new washing machine.

Sarah 00:17:42

Just put it on the curb.

Sarah 00:17:44

Who has been washed in this washing machine?

Sarah 00:17:46

The thing to remember is that wet plus dark equals growth of mildew.

Sarah 00:17:57

We'll just leave it at mildew.

Lacey 00:17:58

Okay.

Sarah 00:17:59

And a lot of people with these newer washing machines, the energy saver ones, especially the ones with the, the door that opens in the front, you'll see that where they gasket.

Sarah 00:18:08

What kind of washing machine do you have?

Lacey 00:18:09

A top loader.

Lacey 00:18:10

It's a very old washing machine.

Sarah 00:18:12

I actually also have an old washing machine, the new energy efficient ones with the front door.

Sarah 00:18:16

You'll see that gasket water will get trapped at that bottom.

Sarah 00:18:20

And oftentimes you'll see if it's standing water, or you'll see like a little discoloration on the gasket where mildew has started to grow.

Sarah 00:18:28

So no matter if you're washer is front or top, leaving the door open always helps with air circulation.

Sarah 00:18:36

If you close that, you're just creating this petri dish because it.

Sarah 00:18:41

Because when you wash your clothes, ideally everything would get washed down.

Sarah 00:18:45

But if there's any remnant of anything, it becomes food for mildew.

Sarah 00:18:51

How to wash your washing machine.

Sarah 00:18:53

I'm going to give general advice, because you need to read your own manual for your own washing machine.

Sarah 00:19:00

But a couple of different ideas.

Sarah 00:19:02

One is they actually sell.

Sarah 00:19:04

If you go to the laundry detergent section of your grocery store, you can actually find machine cleaners that you would do an empty cycle or maybe put in one or two towels.

Sarah 00:19:17

And then whatever this product is and what it's doing, essentially is trying to strip away anything that may have gunked up.

Sarah 00:19:24

Think about how in your cooking hood, in your kitchen, sometimes you run your finger and it's got a little bit of grease buildup.

Lacey 00:19:32

It's not a thing I've ever done, but I believe you.

Lacey 00:19:34

I did work at wendy's, so I know grease can build up.

Lacey 00:19:37

So I got that.

Sarah 00:19:38

So it's just like a little bit.

Sarah 00:19:39

And then once it starts building up, it starts grabbing dust and more grease.

Sarah 00:19:43

When you're cleaning it, you're essentially stripping it back down to the bare material, whether it's plastic or metal.

Sarah 00:19:50

With the older style, like you and I have, you've got the drum inside of the drum.

Sarah 00:19:56

That water level goes up, and sometimes it doesn't get washed all the way down.

Sarah 00:20:02

If you use bleach, I mean, everyone's got different feelings about different cleaning products, but you can run an empty load with some bleach in it and warmer water.

Lacey 00:20:13

Wait, why are you laughing?

Lacey 00:20:14

Because I have no feelings about cleaning products at all.

Lacey 00:20:18

I just.

Lacey 00:20:18

I'm just over here giggling because I'm like, I have not thought about cleaning products enough to have opinions.

Sarah 00:20:25

When my son was little, we did some cloth diapers, and so I was looking up different recipes because you actually don't want to use traditional detergents because they leave a film that decreases the absorbency of a reusable diaper.

Sarah 00:20:39

I was looking up different ways to make them, and they're some hot.

Lacey 00:20:43

I did cloth diaper, Isaac, so I do know about that a bit.

Sarah 00:20:48

So what detergent did you use?

Lacey 00:20:49

We used a baby one that was specific for the cloth.

Lacey 00:20:53

For the cloth.

Lacey 00:20:53

Okay.

Sarah 00:20:53

So when I was doing research on making different things, you just end up in that world of people having opinions of.

Sarah 00:21:00

People had opinions about borax.

Lacey 00:21:04

We did borax in there, too.

Sarah 00:21:06

Some people have some very strong feelings.

Sarah 00:21:08

Once you go down that rabbit hole of the Internet, you find that people have strong feelings about everything.

Lacey 00:21:13

Water.

Sarah 00:21:13

The ph of water.

Sarah 00:21:14

So some people like bleach, some people don't like bleach.

Sarah 00:21:18

Some people like ammonia.

Sarah 00:21:20

Some people don't like ammonia.

Sarah 00:21:22

But the simplest thing you could do is run a warm or hot cycle with some bleach.

Sarah 00:21:30

That's going to help.

Sarah 00:21:32

Either kill any mildew spores, hopefully help strip it down a little bit, and then make sure to leave that door open.

Sarah 00:21:40

I mean, good, better, best if you want to go crazy.

Sarah 00:21:45

And this is actually my dream.

Sarah 00:21:48

My neighbor had a problem with her washing machine, and her husband had to take it apart.

Sarah 00:21:52

She sent me a picture of the gunk that was on that, the outer drum.

Sarah 00:21:57

And I was like, oh, my gosh, I want to clean that so badly.

Sarah 00:22:00

And I actually lent her.

Sarah 00:22:01

I have, it's a steam cleaner that you can spray.

Sarah 00:22:04

And so she cleaned it and sent me pictures, and I got so tingly, I loved it.

Sarah 00:22:08

I actually want my husband to help me disassemble my washing machine so I can do that.

Sarah 00:22:15

But time, energy, and money, it's not at the top of my time list.

Sarah 00:22:20

I dream about it.

Sarah 00:22:22

I want to see what's back there, and then I want to clean up.

Sarah 00:22:25

Can you see my hands?

Lacey 00:22:26

I'm like trying to grab for it.

Lacey 00:22:27

You want it so bad.

Sarah 00:22:29

I want to see it so badly.

Sarah 00:22:32

So circling back, how do you clean your washing machine?

Sarah 00:22:36

Always check your user manual.

Sarah 00:22:39

Always leave the door open.

Sarah 00:22:41

Do a warm or hot cycle with a cup or so of bleach.

Sarah 00:22:46

You can throw in a couple of towels to help.

Sarah 00:22:48

And then you can look in the aisle for specialty products.

Sarah 00:22:53

They also, as long as we're talking about cleaning your appliances, they sell that also for your dishwasher.

Lacey 00:22:58

I do know about the dishwasher.

Lacey 00:22:59

Joe has thought that before.

Sarah 00:23:02

So it's the same thing.

Lacey 00:23:04

The dishwasher is Joe's actually.

Lacey 00:23:06

So is the law.

Lacey 00:23:07

The washer and dryer, he does.

Lacey 00:23:10

Joe is the MVP.

Sarah 00:23:12

Does that all make sense?

Sarah 00:23:13

Did I clarify that well enough or taking a question?

Lacey 00:23:15

Yeah, I don't have questions.

Lacey 00:23:17

I'm still back on.

Lacey 00:23:19

Oh, you clean your washing machine.

Lacey 00:23:21

I did have an example of when I cleaned out the washing machine.

Lacey 00:23:24

I do get that more now.

Lacey 00:23:26

I do know Becky has a front loader, so I'm wondering if she has that issue of it sitting and kind of things.

Lacey 00:23:32

Hopefully that can be helpful for her.

Sarah 00:23:34

A lot of the newer, newer energy efficient ones with the front loaders like that, they actually have now a cycle after you're done doing your laundry that, that dries the inside of the washer because of the way that front loader sits.

Sarah 00:23:50

The water can pool right at the bottom.

Sarah 00:23:52

But yeah, anything that has water, your shower, your sink, your washing machine, your dishwasher, your sinks, your toilets.

Sarah 00:24:01

Water plus dark equals peach rich.

Lacey 00:24:35

I will say something I'm learning more is that in our new house we have much harder water.

Lacey 00:24:40

I'm noticing the hard water buildup on things like we had to have a plumber come out and replace some pipes underneath our sink in our bathroom because of that.

Lacey 00:24:51

I do see how that could also be affect a washing machine too.

Sarah 00:24:55

Yes, the mineral buildup.

Sarah 00:24:57

Yeah, that's a whole other thing.

Sarah 00:24:58

Have you considered getting a water softener?

Lacey 00:25:00

I don't know where we would put it.

Lacey 00:25:02

We don't have a basement.

Lacey 00:25:03

And right now, our utilities are literally in one closet, and it is filled.

Sarah 00:25:08

So I don't.

Lacey 00:25:09

I don't even know where.

Lacey 00:25:10

Where we would do that.

Lacey 00:25:11

My parents have one.

Lacey 00:25:13

I remember putting pellets or something in it at some point.

Sarah 00:25:17

Yes.

Sarah 00:25:18

We have a commercial size water softener because that's how hard our water is.

Lacey 00:25:24

Yeah.

Sarah 00:25:24

And you have to pour the pellets.

Sarah 00:25:26

My dad wanted to build, you know what a coal chute is?

Sarah 00:25:29

Yeah.

Sarah 00:25:30

He wanted to essentially build a coal chute in my house to get the bags of water softener pellets down into the base.

Sarah 00:25:39

And again, great idea, but time, energy, and money, it's not really at the top of my listen, but yes.

Sarah 00:25:45

So that's a whole other thing that was so fun for me.

Sarah 00:25:49

Now I just really want to go clean my washing with it.

Sarah 00:25:52

Oh, and I did make the assumption she was talking about the inside should.

Lacey 00:25:55

Show to wipe it down.

Lacey 00:25:57

Right.

Sarah 00:25:57

You would want to just wipe it down with a damp cloth.

Sarah 00:26:00

Yeah.

Sarah 00:26:02

One little beef.

Sarah 00:26:04

This is a total side note, one little beef with everything.

Sarah 00:26:06

Now, that's analog versus digital.

Sarah 00:26:09

Like the touch screens for your oven, thermostat, washer, and dryer.

Sarah 00:26:15

If they're fancy and new, when you go to wipe things, you have to lock it first.

Sarah 00:26:20

Otherwise everything goes.

Sarah 00:26:22

I'm such an analog girl.

Sarah 00:26:24

I know.

Sarah 00:26:25

You're so digital.

Sarah 00:26:26

I got timers for my lights because I get so tired of turning the lights on and off.

Sarah 00:26:31

And I was looking, and they have so many digital options, like, you can hook it up to wifi.

Sarah 00:26:36

And I was like, I'm just not that person.

Lacey 00:26:38

Almost all the lights in our house are done.

Lacey 00:26:40

Bye.

Lacey 00:26:41

Telling our electronic home assistant, whose name starts with an a, to turn lights on and off.

Lacey 00:26:46

I love it that I can lay in bed and turn off lights downstairs.

Lacey 00:26:50

I also set it up so that I can control our garage door from my phone.

Sarah 00:26:54

You are becoming like a cyborg.

Lacey 00:26:57

Absolutely.

Lacey 00:26:58

Bring it on.

Sarah 00:27:00

Lacey is the brain in the heart of your house, and your house is a digital extension.

Lacey 00:27:06

I was doing some journaling yesterday, and one of the things I'm trying to learn about is my own design and manifesting.

Lacey 00:27:14

I am what's called, based on my human design chart, a specific manifester.

Lacey 00:27:19

Like, I can be very specific about what I want, and it will help me.

Lacey 00:27:25

And I.

Lacey 00:27:25

One of the things I wrote is I don't want anyone to need me, but I want to be the center of the wheel.

Lacey 00:27:33

If someone needs something, they can come to me and I can come up with an answer, but I don't want to be their foundation.

Lacey 00:27:39

And are you saying me being the heart and the brain of our house, I'm like.

Lacey 00:27:42

I already am.

Lacey 00:27:42

Don't worry.

Lacey 00:27:44

Working towards having that even more in my life.

Sarah 00:27:47

I love where two ends of the line.

Sarah 00:27:49

You're moving towards that, and I'm moving back Amish, and I'm not even a Luddite at all, but I just.

Sarah 00:27:55

Anything I can still have, like, paper and pencil, I go that direction all the time.

Lacey 00:28:01

If that works for you, great.

Lacey 00:28:04

Maybe at some point we should do an episode about all the different automations and tech things that I have in my house that make my life easier, because I have quite a bit.

Sarah 00:28:14

That would be great, especially to highlight the chronic illness.

Lacey 00:28:18

Listen, that's one of the reasons why we started investing in, like, smart bulbs and that kind of stuff, is that if I'm not feeling well, I don't have to get up to turn the light off.

Lacey 00:28:29

I can turn the light off from right where I am.

Lacey 00:28:31

I know that doesn't sound big for other people, but when you're like, I can barely function as a person, let alone stand up and turn the light off to be able to do it laying with my eyes closed.

Lacey 00:28:43

Game changer.

Sarah 00:28:45

Oh, and I fully support that.

Sarah 00:28:46

And I think that's wonderful.

Sarah 00:28:48

Where I get overwhelmed is all the different options.

Lacey 00:28:52

Yeah.

Sarah 00:28:52

Like which system you pick and what plays with what and what doesn't play with what.

Sarah 00:28:58

For instance, I got a new computer, and now my new computer won't talk to my printer because it aged out.

Sarah 00:29:04

So, like, technology.

Sarah 00:29:06

Yeah, that's where I get flummoxed.

Sarah 00:29:10

Flummoxed is the perfect word for that.

Sarah 00:29:12

I get flummoxed.

Lacey 00:29:13

I also want to tell you, those are very valid concerns.

Lacey 00:29:16

Those are one of those things that are easy for me to overcome and move paste.

Lacey 00:29:21

But I can get why for other people.

Lacey 00:29:23

It is not.

Lacey 00:29:24

I see you and I understand and I validate what your experience is, and.

Sarah 00:29:29

That really highlights this podcast.

Sarah 00:29:33

It is about your needs.

Sarah 00:29:36

Your need to turn off a light without getting out of bed is towards the top of the priority list.

Sarah 00:29:42

Whereas for me, there's a lot to take into consideration.

Sarah 00:29:47

Yeah, go ahead.

Lacey 00:29:48

I was also gonna say I would hate timers because it would feel like the world's telling me what to do.

Lacey 00:29:54

The lights turn off at a certain time.

Lacey 00:29:56

You don't know if I need that.

Lacey 00:29:57

Don't do that.

Sarah 00:29:59

I sort of love it.

Sarah 00:30:00

So I turn the two lights downstairs on timers so that I can go to bed, and then there's still a light on downstairs.

Sarah 00:30:06

What I love about it is the light will turn off after I'm in bed asleep.

Sarah 00:30:11

And I feel like someone's taking care of me because I don't have to think about it.

Sarah 00:30:16

So again, it can look different to different people, different angles.

Lacey 00:30:19

Yeah.

Lacey 00:30:20

I will say Christmas decorations are on timers because I don't rely on those to light my home.

Lacey 00:30:28

They're a joyous thing when it happens, but it's not a core need.

Lacey 00:30:33

Although if it was up for me, I would have every light on in our house all the time.

Lacey 00:30:37

The more light, the better.

Lacey 00:30:39

Unless I have a migraine, then all the lights need to be off.

Sarah 00:30:42

See, I had so funny about light, because when you use overhead lights, I'm very specific about that.

Sarah 00:30:49

And when you use lamps and which lights can be on at which time of the day, I'm like.

Sarah 00:30:55

Like the light captain in my house.

Sarah 00:30:57

And it's hard for me because in the morning, I don't want that bright overhead light.

Sarah 00:31:01

I want just like a soft, like, under the cabinet lighting.

Sarah 00:31:05

And my son, when he gets up before me, he turns on every single light on the first floor.

Lacey 00:31:10

I am your son, and you are Joe.

Sarah 00:31:12

It's like walking into a casino after being in the pitch black.

Lacey 00:31:17

You're just like, this morning, I turned the light on, and Isaac yelled, too bright.

Lacey 00:31:22

And I was like, too bad.

Lacey 00:31:24

I need the light.

Sarah 00:31:25

We have four switches in our master bathroom, and one of them's the no no light.

Sarah 00:31:30

I don't know why I haven't just put a piece of tape over it.

Sarah 00:31:33

My husband always uses the no no light.

Sarah 00:31:36

And sometimes I'll be in there and he'll come in and turn on that one.

Sarah 00:31:38

I'm the same way.

Sarah 00:31:39

I go, no two, brighten.

Lacey 00:31:40

Right?

Sarah 00:31:40

That's me.

Sarah 00:31:41

I'm Isaac.

Sarah 00:31:42

I'm Isaac.

Lacey 00:31:42

So is Joe.

Lacey 00:31:43

Joe will be sitting in a room, and I'm just like.

Lacey 00:31:46

I get like.

Lacey 00:31:48

Cause the sun's going down, so it gets darker at one point.

Lacey 00:31:50

I'm just like, ella, turn on all the lights.

Lacey 00:31:53

Just too dark.

Lacey 00:31:54

How do you do this?

Lacey 00:31:56

Can handle it.

Lacey 00:31:57

I can do it wherever I am.

Lacey 00:31:59

Because I can tell the lights to turn off.

Sarah 00:32:02

Cause you are part cyborg, but not a cult leader.

Lacey 00:32:05

Not a cult leader.

Sarah 00:32:07

This has been a fun opener to season three.

Sarah 00:32:10

I'm very excited, and I can't wait for those questions to start rolling in.

Sarah 00:32:15

Please.

Sarah 00:32:15

Again, it's anonymous.

Sarah 00:32:17

You can ask anything, and I will be tickled no matter what you ask.

Lacey 00:32:22

Absolutely.

Lacey 00:32:23

Sarah, what are you grateful for this week?

Sarah 00:32:26

Okay, I mention it all the time.

Sarah 00:32:28

I watch jeopardy.

Sarah 00:32:29

I do know I love learning, but my son told me he was in class and there was a question and he raised his hand and answered and he said, what is the prime meridian?

Sarah 00:32:43

I was so delighted.

Sarah 00:32:46

The teacher actually went in the form of a question.

Sarah 00:32:48

Nice.

Sarah 00:32:49

You are correct.

Sarah 00:32:50

Points awarded.

Sarah 00:32:51

So answering in the form of a question, that made me laugh.

Sarah 00:32:54

What are you grateful for?

Lacey 00:32:56

I am grateful for my chart and the fact that I can send a message to my doctor.

Lacey 00:33:07

I don't have to call anyone.

Lacey 00:33:09

I can just send a message and then they can take care of things and send a message back.

Lacey 00:33:15

I'm so thankful for it.

Lacey 00:33:16

Managing gestational diabetes is a full time job.

Lacey 00:33:21

The amount management of prescriptions and appointments.

Lacey 00:33:25

I haven't gotten to the appointments where I have to go every single week.

Lacey 00:33:28

Twice a week at a certain point, I have to send in my blood sugar every week and then they adjust my medicine based on my blood sugars and then it gets sent to the pharmacy and then the pharmacy has to fill it.

Lacey 00:33:39

This time around, I've been able to do it just with messaging people and it makes my life so much easier.

Lacey 00:33:47

I'm thankful for my chart and being able to message doctors and not have to call anyone.

Sarah 00:33:55

Yeah, call somebody, be put on hold, be transferred, leave a message, wait for them to call back.

Sarah 00:34:01

You can't answer the phone when they call back, so they leave a message.

Lacey 00:34:03

Yes.

Sarah 00:34:04

And your whole day?

Lacey 00:34:05

Yes.

Sarah 00:34:06

I also want to highlight that is a further extension of lacy being a cyborg with her medical care.

Lacey 00:34:11

It is.

Lacey 00:34:13

I also have a blood glucose monitor that automatically upsloads to a cloud.

Lacey 00:34:18

So all I have to do is take that report and send it to my doctor.

Lacey 00:34:21

I have done everything that I can to make it easier for myself.

Lacey 00:34:26

And son of a bee sting if it doesn't make things at least a little bit easier.

Lacey 00:34:32

Yeah.

Sarah 00:34:33

I actually do think you should be some sort of leader for chronic illness.

Sarah 00:34:39

I don't know if gestational diabetes falls under chronic illness.

Sarah 00:34:42

It's not chronic because it's temporary, but it's a thing to be managed.

Sarah 00:34:46

But I feel like you should be a leader of.

Sarah 00:34:48

Okay, let me tell you how to make this easier.

Lacey 00:34:50

I do have ideas, a lot of mines, technology.

Lacey 00:34:54

If I had enough money, my life could be easy breezy girlfriend.

Lacey 00:34:59

I know that's one of the things where I want to make enough money that my chronic illness doesn't leave such an impact on my family.

Lacey 00:35:07

That's all I want, and I'm going to get there, manifesting it right now, putting it in the universe.

Sarah 00:35:12

I love it.

Lacey 00:35:13

Listeners, we are so excited to do season three with you all and have you be more involved in the season.

Lacey 00:35:20

I think that's what I'm the most excited about.

Lacey 00:35:22

It's not just me and Sarah and our participants behind the scenes talking.

Lacey 00:35:27

We get to have more people involved and that I am very excited.

Sarah 00:35:31

Yes.

Sarah 00:35:31

Yes.

Sarah 00:35:32

I just.

Sarah 00:35:32

I didn't even think about that until you said that.

Sarah 00:35:34

I was like, yes.

Lacey 00:35:35

Yeah.

Sarah 00:35:35

The community.

Sarah 00:35:36

That big head.

Sarah 00:35:37

Come on in.

Sarah 00:35:38

Remember I was talking about being like a mama bird, like a mama chicken.

Sarah 00:35:41

Come on.

Lacey 00:35:41

Or get on in here.

Sarah 00:35:42

There's plenty of room for everything.

Lacey 00:35:43

Absolutely.

Sarah 00:35:44

But don't get too close to Lacy because she wants to be part of it, but she doesn't want to be, like, in the middle.

Lacey 00:35:50

Don't give me, like, I'm not a hugger.

Lacey 00:35:51

People think I'm a hugger.

Lacey 00:35:52

I'm not.

Lacey 00:35:53

I just like personal space.

Lacey 00:35:55

We can acknowledge we like each other from a safe distance.

Lacey 00:35:58

I don't understand why touching has to be a part of it.

Sarah 00:36:00

There's these so funny videos of dogs at doggy daycare.

Sarah 00:36:04

My dog is obviously not social.

Sarah 00:36:06

And there'll be, like, all these dogs, like, tumbling together in this big old dog pile, and they'll pan over to this golden retriever just sitting by himself in the corner with his eyes biggest.

Sarah 00:36:16

Do not touch me.

Lacey 00:36:18

Yeah, just don't touch me.

Lacey 00:36:20

I think that's a fair requirement of.

Sarah 00:36:23

Yep, I think so, too.

Sarah 00:36:25

On that note, thank you, Lacey.

Lacey 00:36:27

Thank you, Sarah.