Welcome to Season 2!

Lacey: 00:00:06

Welcome to No Shame in the Home Game, the podcast that cares how your home feels, not looks. I am Lacey, your co host here in season two. We're so excited. And here is Sara, our, hostess with the mostest co host. Welcome. Hi, Sara.

Sara: 00:00:27

Hi, Lacey! I am so excited to hear that season two. I just, my heart is overflowed with joy. I can feel the tears coming up. This is, I've wanted this for so long to help more people and it feels like it's coming together and this season is so beautiful. It just, it fills my heart with joy. It's so beautiful. It's weird because I'm telling the audience who hasn't listened yet, but we know what's coming. And it has reaffirmed the work that I do. I'm putting that joy ripple out there and I can actually feel it. I can see it happening and it's so cool. Do you feel the

Lacey: 00:01:14

Absolutely, and I think, for me, this season's a little different because, 1, I'm not a participant. you'll get updates about me and Joe in our home and that kind of stuff. I'm sure and our postseason stuff, but I, I don't know these people as well. our participant, Alex, she's 1 of my dearest friends. I really don't know these people and it's been so fascinating to really come in as a complete outsider and hear these people because all three of our participants are really in different stages of life, too. they've got different things going on. And so to hear how that. A lot of the same things, as I know you've said before, Sara come up for them that come up for me. I just. I would say that I think there are a lot more tearful moments this season too. idea what

Sara: 00:02:33

see the extension of your feelings and the history and how it's affecting the feelings of those in your house, when you really go into that mindset, That's when magic really starts to unlock. And I think season two feels a lot different too, because with season one, season one, it was our first time around. Like we were really getting our footing with the format and how we wanted to frame things. And so I felt like this season, I felt like we were able to get to the meat of it a little bit quicker, which. Is worth to me. I love that part. I, that's the part I wanna get. I wanna get into the good juicy inside. I felt like it was more, I don't wanna say compact, that's not the right word, but it was more hearty. I don't know, do, what's the word I'm looking for? Like that mors, that goody morsel was there

Lacey: 00:03:25

It's juicy, it's, yeah, you get to the heart of it faster,

Sara: 00:03:30

two is juicy.

Lacey: 00:03:32

we'll tell you more this season later on, but Sara and I wanted to take the opportunity in this 1st episode of the season to just reintroduce you to how this is going to work, what we hope you come into it mindset wise with and all of that stuff. So just a quick reminder that here at No Shame in the Home Game. We are going to tell the story of our three participants who are making changes over the course of three months, and we are going to check in with them. Every month to see, how suggestions that Sara has made change things and adjustments. And so we're going to get to visit them 3 times. And each time we get a little bit deeper into their home and how it runs and why it runs the way that it runs really to highlight. We all have a lot of the same issues. And a lot of the same hangups and that we are not alone when it comes to our home management. Check

Sara: 00:04:35

Which is exactly the core root of why I started, why I invented home management consulting. Because I was in so many homes, and I was hearing the same thing. Things don't feel good, they're not smooth, everyone else can do it better, I don't know what to do. But we weren't all saying it in the open. And that's why I feel like No Shame is so powerful, because it's taking away that facade. Of peachy keen, and we can all just admit, I want this to feel better. How do you do it? Right? So the goal is, is that you listen. And Lacey said, there's going to be something inside that you're going to connect with. It may not be each participant's origin story. It may not be each of the participants particular. Cause we hone in on one thing that we want to work on. Because that's realistic with three episodes, we're not going to tackle everything, but you might hear something, a mindset, a tip, a tool, something that is going to go, Oh, that's something I can use. And I also want to remind our audience. we are so appreciative that these three participants are opening up the door to their home and they're showing us the inner workings of their house. And that's a vulnerable space. So let's just take a moment to appreciate. I always hear about those shows where it's couples therapy or something where it's a reality show. And these people are being like so vulnerable, right? And I'm like, wow, like that's a strength to be that, that open and vulnerable. So let's honor and respect that the people are showing us what isn't feeling good. And they're willing to share that for the benefit of others.

Lacey: 00:06:26

Yeah, and I think it's also important to highlight that people can be vulnerable like this when it is an environment of no judgment. And that's right. No shame. We are not here to judge. How they do things. We're not here to judge how we do things. It is a shame free space where we're tackling the problem as it is not as we think it should be or all of these other things. I think it's important for you, dear listener to remember. There ain't no judgment here. This is a judgment free zone and hopefully that can also lead into your own home management to stop the judgment because it's hard not to.

Sara: 00:07:10

Well, and on that note. I love that whole thing from that hair club for men. I'm not just the president. I'm a member too. Like every time I do one of these episodes, I'm reminded of the shame and the guilt that I, I may not realize cause it's not screaming, but I uncover another layer for myself. Oh, I'm actually really draining my energy when I shame myself for. I don't know, not making more nutritious meals every single day of the week, or when I'm not nailing my grocery plan every week. So it is also reminding me how much I need to, not forgive isn't the right word, but accept, just accept. Because life, is not always a bowl of sunshine and roses. And Life just keeps happening, which during this season, you will actually hear with our participants. We really embrace what life is throwing at each of our participants. We roll with it. There's always this feeling of oh, I'm sorry I didn't get to ABC because of All these things that happen and it's just yep, that's life. Yep. Let's, we're not going to edit out life. This is what's really happening behind in your house. and let's fold it in because good intentions are awesome, but then we have to flex and allow for reality.

Lacey: 00:08:41

I think another thing this season that we really highlight to. that is so beneficial for me. Is the fact that just one tiny step moves you closer to what you want and how you feel. No adjustment is too big, too small. Whatever feels the best is the right path. And we've talked about this many a times before. Your house is different than their house. It's different than my house. It's different to Sara's house. And what needs to be done is different too. Very much just, I love our little space of no judgment and this is how it is and all of that good stuff.

Sara: 00:09:23

I love it too. I feel like a mama bird. Have you ever actually seen a chicken when the little baby chicks go under the mama? Have you ever seen that?

Lacey: 00:09:31

I've never actually seen it. I, my brain pictured something, but I don't know if it's right.

Sara: 00:09:37

a really safe place to show up and to not be judged and to feel like you can share what's going on and to feel supported. And that is, the extension of no shame in the home game and sharing the middle. It's just mama bird, come here. Like all you little bit. Come here. I want to give you the safe. My neighbor has chickens. So I've got to witness a lot of chicken things and that's. That's why my analogy went there. I also really like to mama bird people.

Lacey: 00:10:07

you're very good at it.

Sara: 00:10:08

so if you're listening to this season, last season, this season, whatever you resonate with and if something in your heart just wait, there's a chicken,

Lacey: 00:10:19

Did you call a chicken to you? You have binoculars right there by you.

Sara: 00:10:24

Yeah. Okay. So if you listen to season one, you know, I'm a bird nerd.

Lacey: 00:10:28

I'm taking a screenshot of this. I

Sara: 00:10:36

I'm going to have to go mama bird those chickens after this. Anyone who's listening, if you get that little warm, fuzzy feeling. And you just feel that recognition of acceptance, what are those warm fuzzy feelings that you feel when we're recording or listening? Lacey, do you get any of those? I do.

Lacey: 00:10:55

What would I call them? I

Sara: 00:11:00

Fuzzy nuggets?

Lacey: 00:11:01

don't know. That sounds a little weird to me. I think of chicken nuggets and then I don't want my chicken nuggets to be fuzzy. We just talked about chickens. Home tingles, right?

Sara: 00:11:11

Thank you. Hong tingles. If anyone gets those good feelings inside, come join. Like you can get more of those. That's, that is why Lacey and I are working together. Cause we want to spread those yummy, good feelings.

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Mhm. Mhm.

Sara: 00:11:29

One of our participants, Tyra.

Lacey: 00:11:31

Lights up. a room and we feel it miles and miles away. She is magnetic and every time we are done talking to her, Sara and I both are like, I feel amazing. She's amazing. She's magic. I think is what I said last time.

Sara: 00:11:47

I've been so lucky. I support the participants between episode recordings and I've done a lot of back and forth with Tyra over Voxer So we do audio messages and I texted her one day and I said your voice is like sunshine And it was actually a really good tool for me because when she would slip into the mindset Sort of that old mindset that was weighing her down. I could actually hear it in her voice and I could see it on her face. And it was night and day and I was like, Oh, that's how did we get there? Okay. And so when she's in that sunshine magnetic. That's when the stuff is happening and it's unlocking and it's clicking. And then as soon as those shame, that's what it was. It was those shame thoughts. I don't want to give too much away, but there's a teaser for you. you get to witness some real time shifting. It's amazing.

Lacey: 00:12:40

it is. So we have, Tyra, who is a retired homeschool mom and her, process of turning her home into a post. School, right? Going into this aspect of retirement, being able to focus on herself and her businesses, she's so cool.

Sara: 00:13:04

I want a spinoff podcast called

Lacey: 00:13:07

time with Tyra.

Sara: 00:13:08

time with Tyra. Yeah. I love her story and journey because it goes to show about how every phase in your life, it's different requirements and needs. Your home serves many purposes any given day. But then if you look at different time periods in your life What needs to happen really changes and to be aware of that. And I think that's what we did a lot for her is to shine the awareness on. It was a different chapter in her life. and we get to help her through that. I went clothes shopping the other day and I said to the lady, when I was checking out, I said, Oh, I just got to that point where I'd open up my closet and it felt like somebody else's clothes. So if you're walking around your house and there's a part of your house where you just feel like this isn't mine, like this feels like a previous version of me or somebody else's. Yeah, that means you're in a different chapter in your life. And you have to intentionally shift things.

Lacey: 00:14:06

it takes time to shift things. It's not going to happen all at once, I think is another big thing that we forget, it's not like, I woke up today and everything is done for me and it's all perfect, hunky dory, sunshine rainbows, no, it takes time, takes emotions, it takes effort, and it's, Yeah, her story is special and we adore her, we are also going to be following Ashley this season Ashley feels like she has her life together so much that it almost feels like she shouldn't need her.

Sara: 00:14:42

Yeah. oh, completely. So Ashley jokes that me and her are twin flames, which I think is hilarious. The work she does, she is an occupational therapist by training. And then when lots of things change, she ended up shifting her focus to Calendars and planners. And how do you communicate as a family unit? So no one person is, knows everything that's going on. And so she applied that occupational therapy mindset of reducing the points of friction. And so the way I see things in a very tangible way, she's doing. All of the appointments and lists and so she's doing all that. So yes, we speak very much the same language and we're talking. I'm like, I don't, how can I help you?

Lacey: 00:15:30

But I think it's really important and I think that's 1 of the reasons why it's so great. We're working with her is even people that we think have everything all together and perfect and planned and because her planners are like, beautiful and simplistic and just gorgeous and.

Sara: 00:15:49

wait. We got to do, shout out dovetail designs, calendars, planners, meal systems, analog and digital. I'm a convert. Go ahead. Sorry. I interrupted you,

Lacey: 00:16:02

Even she, and we're only going to tackle one. We ended up actually having quite a few different things we talked about in her house. Even she has this strain that is pulling her energy down, that is not making her own feel how she wants it and that, it should be better, should be this. She also has four kids, which every time we talk, I'm like, Oh my gosh, you are amazing. How do you do this?

Sara: 00:16:27

And run a business and she has multiple animals. I know. She's just one of those Energizer bunnies. What I like about Ashley's is she very much. Is already on board with what I call like the home CEO, junior mindset of your children are going to be managing their own living spaces one day. And so setting them up with the tools of success, she has a space that they are supposed to manage, but she can't be totally hands off. She's finding that bridge between how do I let them have this space and ownership and yet still maintain it. And It's totally different. each participant is so different, but she has a great mindset about that. She needed help thinking it out of how do we go about this and tackle it. Ashley's fun. Her type of humors. I like it.

Lacey: 00:17:22

too. It always takes me by surprise. That's what I love about it. Then we have Teresa who, struggles a lot with meal planning and feeding her family and all of the stuff that goes along with that.

Sara: 00:17:39

Yes. So full disclosure, Teresa and I have known each other for quite a long time We used to live right around the corner from one another but we live in different states now So there's a level of comfort with Teresa that you'll hear is a little bit different so I also know how she approaches things. So I had, a leg up on knowing how she was approaching it. And I really saw with Teresa mindset was actually. Going to be more 70 30, 70 percent mindset, because she was juggling, as you'll hear, she's juggling a lot. She kept her expectations the same. And it's just, I, one of the tenants I always say is, if you can't dip into your three buckets of resources, then expectations need to shift. And I know we were able to make a shift with her that was pretty powerful and was able to unlock a whole avenue of options once she relaxed into this new expectation mindset. And I was really excited for her because that was really draining her energy. So that felt powerful too.

Lacey: 00:18:50

and, Teresa, she has an energy that's like a warm blanket to me of Oh, I just enjoy. Hearing her talk and it really helps that spoiler alert. She gets a puppy and then Sara and I watch the puppy Wow, she talks at one point. So there's lots to come with that

Sara: 00:19:08

Theresa is so funny the way she's just like, let's add this in, she's almost got a very Alex vibe that way, where it's just like, yeah, let's do this and this. So yeah, the new puppy was funny. And Also, side note, Teresa's a massage therapist and I have to say a massage by Teresa is another worldly experience. She is so in tune with the body and the healing and the letting go. you can see the way she just she connects and that's where her strengths are that's where her so she was expecting Herself to be not only the best masseuse But the best home cook and the best Dog trainer that felt very valuable So that she can go to work because she loves what she does But she can go to work and show up and give the best There goes that ripple that 1 percent ripple so she can show up and give a 1 percent more to her clients So they feel 1 percent better going out into the world that felt really powerful and again knowing her as a Friend, it means so much to me to be able to work with her,

Lacey: 00:20:18

and I really feel like I she and I connected about a lot of those same like Shoulds and all that stuff. yeah, each of our participants this season are so cool and special in their own ways. And I am so honored to be. Really just a spectator in their journey. Sara does the work and I'm just like, oh, my gosh, this is great.

Sara: 00:20:41

I couldn't do it without you. And that's, but that goes back to some of the tenants of home. CEO is recognizing what needs to be done. Who does what better? And why your values like we're doing this cause we are very passionate about helping people enjoy life more. We know why we're putting the work in. We know where Lacey's skills are and they are not where my skills are. We are very two different skill set people.

Lacey: 00:21:09

Go back and listen to our human design episodes and you'll hear a lot about that.

Sara: 00:21:15

Every episode we end, I just feel so good. Like so warm and gooey. I always just be like, Oh, everything's good, man.

Lacey: 00:21:25

you are magic. Our participants each have several times said in some way or another. That you are magic. So of course you feel that way.

Sara: 00:21:33

But that's what's so cool is I'm not magic in a vacuum. It's a two part chemical formula. I'm only magic when people are open to the process and they do the back and forth with me. That's where the magic, it has to be both people. I can't come in and do anything unless somebody is showing up. So there's, Oh, I just got goosebumps. Cause it is like magic and it is so much fun. it's just so much fun when people are open to it and it's so

Lacey: 00:22:07

We, we hope that, our dear listeners get a little bit of that magic too, cause it's so great. It really is.

Sara: 00:22:15

It is so good.

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Mhm. Mhm.

Sara: 00:22:20

just A reminder too, No Shame in the Home Game is based off of the work that I do. Which we are putting into a course called home CEO. Not every single person can be a participant on the show. Not every single person I can work with one on one. I only have so much time in the day. I went from one-on-one consulting to doing a podcast so I could help more people. And then we created the course to help even more people. So if you are looking for solutions and you like the process and approach that we do on this podcast, home, CEO is a DIY. These are the steps, this is how we do it. And so you can start to implement some of those steps.

Lacey: 00:23:03

And so we've been talking about OMCEO for over almost a year now, and it is happening. we have All the elements all together, and, we'll be launching it, at the end of March is our current plan. it is happening. for realsies.

Sara: 00:23:18

It is happening and I have trusted, I've really been focusing on it is going to happen at exactly the right time. We haven't pushed, we've been really excited,

Lacey: 00:23:29

So

Sara: 00:23:30

but we haven't pushed. We've just allowed each piece to unfold exactly as it's needed to. Which feels much better than pushing the solution.

Lacey: 00:23:39

and it also is getting bigger and bigger. I feel like every day, we're like, oh, we should add this, and this video should go with this worksheet, and da. that's also part of it.

Sara: 00:23:49

I feel very expansive when I did the home harmony program with Corey Whiteland, our executive functioning coach expert. It was supposed to start out as a 20 minute conversation, me and her. And then that turned into, Hey, we should make this a course. I thought it was going to be three 15 minute videos. It turned into three 45 minute videos. So there's just, it's I want to help everybody. So I just keep mushrooming it out because I want it to be more and more, but. Yes, it's got to just come out at some point

Lacey: 00:24:23

And it will.

Sara: 00:24:24

and it will, and it is, we're in the future now. It is out.

Lacey: 00:24:28

It is out. We've made it happen. Got a few tweaks and finishing work to do, I personally am not a home management consultant. I am barely a home management co host. I have taken a lot of the tools in HomeCEO and it has really helped my household. Every single piece of it is maybe not going to be for you, and that's fine. So remember, just one little step. One percent better. It's the magic of compound interest. A little bit, and a little bit. And over time, it becomes a lot.

Sara: 00:25:05

Yes. And anyone listening, because Lacey just gave that full disclaimer of not being a home management expert. And I just want to say, this is not something I was born with. I very much learned through struggle.

Lacey: 00:25:21

it's

Sara: 00:25:23

good. How can I do this differently? I am very much the person who's I've done this, I've seen what's worked, I've done this, I've seen what doesn't work. I've very much been in the trenches,, I don't want anyone to be intimidated. You know, when you see the covers on those like really nice magazines of everything's color coded and everything's perfect and nothing's out of place and there's no dust, that's not what I am. That's not what this is. This is. Let's make your home operation smoother, whatever that looks like.

Lacey: 00:25:49

whatever it looks like, and hopefully it looks like how you want it and how it works for your home and how it makes you feel good.

Sara: 00:25:59

This is the start of a really happy revolution.

Lacey: 00:26:04

Absolutely. Absolutely. we're excited for you to hear season 2. since we're kicking off the season and we're doing our participant episodes, they are every week. So every Friday, you'll get a new episode of no shame in the home game and. Sara, and I cannot wait for you to join us.

Sara: 00:26:25

We're very excited. Thanks for coming along with this journey.

Lacey: 00:26:29

I'm so excited. I'm always excited. We should still do what, what we're feeling grateful for, Sara, at the end of this episode.

Sara: 00:26:36

Anyone who's new here, we do Moments of Gratitude at the end. Which, oh my gosh, full circle, this is based off of Moments of Zen from The Daily Show. Jon Stewart.

Lacey: 00:26:48

on Mondays!

Sara: 00:26:50

So that's going to be my moment of happiness because Jon Stewart, he doesn't know it, but he is sort of a foundation in my scaffolding of coming of age, of learning how to think critically, but with humor, I remember when he first took over the Daily Show and that was a staple for me. And when he left. it was really, that was a big thing for me. And so with him coming back and it's just on Mondays, but I eat it up and it is so good for my soul. And again, it's that whole, like we can do tough things and still laugh because if you don't laugh, you're not going to do the tough things. Jon Stewart, you are my masthead on this ship.

Lacey: 00:27:40

The ship of life.

Sara: 00:27:42

On the ship of life. I said that just to be silly. Cause I pictured, like back in the day when they had like those women, those busty women and they'd be on the

Lacey: 00:27:51

Well it's a

Sara: 00:27:52

I was just picturing,

Lacey: 00:27:53

She's got the flowing hair and yeah.

Sara: 00:27:57

I just pictured Jon Stewart like on the front of a ship, like hanging out over the water.

Lacey: 00:28:04

His pen is like poking out. yeah. I can see it. I see it in my mind's eye. I am, feeling grateful for historical romance novels and genre. I had a strong historical romance period in my, Late teens, and right now I've just picked it back up, and the joy that it brings me, it just does. specifically really into Tessa Dare books right now, NBD. don't tell me what to read, because then I'll resent it and then not read it, because that's what I did with Bridgerton, is everybody was like, watch Bridgerton, and I'm like, don't tell me what to do, and I just not watched it. So, I am feeling grateful for the books themselves, but also, rediscovering a part of myself that I haven't, enjoyed, I don't know, it's just, it's making me very happy because I'm thinking of, my friend who I've read them with and we would talk about them and it was, like, scandalous for us, and all of those different things. So I'm just really, I'm enjoying and basking in that enjoyment.

Sara: 00:29:08

I love that for you. Oh. Yeah, that's your joy fuel. I love

Lacey: 00:29:13

it. it is, And I also, it's a, I think when I was younger, it was a shameful thing that I liked my romance novels, specifically historical romance, because they usually get like the, they get made fun of for the Fabio on the front type thing and that kind of stuff. And it's no, I know a lot about 1800s in England. Do you?

Sara: 00:29:41

you were gonna, I thought, and I was looking forward to you more specifically saying, I know a lot about 1800's love making. Do you? Nazimulai, tell me more. We just discovered a new spinoff podcast. 1800s lovemaking.

Lacey: 00:29:59

I will say, I don't know how accurate these books are. they're definitely through a lens of present day, but it is, it is not shameful. It is joyful and, Whether that's a joy that you have or not. Just love what you love.

Sara: 00:30:16

See, you sound a little high too now,

Lacey: 00:30:18

do! I do. You get start getting me to talk about roads and how cool I think systems of roads are. And we'll get

Sara: 00:30:26

That's one of my favorite season one highlights. You talking about roads. Oh my goodness. We're here for the wacky. I hope you y'all are along for the wacky ride. You don't have to be wacky, but You have to appreciate Wacky, because we're gonna dish that out every now and then when you least expect it.

Lacey: 00:30:48

did I think this podcast episode was going to end with, 1800s lovemaking discussions? No, I didn't. But here we are and I'm so happy for it.

Sara: 00:30:57

that's why I love our talks. You never know what we're gonna talk about. Did you know I was gonna talk about chickens that were halfway between my house and my neighbor's house? You didn't know

Lacey: 00:31:08

out the binoculars is a high point of my life. I have a screenshot. I'm going to post it. Like I, it just felt so, so good in the moment. So genuine.

Sara: 00:31:21

So then we end it, you say, Thank you

Lacey: 00:31:25

Sara

Sara: 00:31:26

thank you, Lacey.